What Time Is It? (NJM2)
One of the NoJoMo daily challenges has to do with Holes – as in, do you have any piercings?
No, I don’t.
That didn’t fill very much space. Looks like I’m already in a groove of posting my daily entry at the end of the day, typing as the clock winds towards midnight. One of the notes on yesterday’s entry pointed out that if I lived in Australia I would have already been on tomorrow, and I would have been late regardless.
I’ve never crossed the International Dateline, but I hope to someday. What would happen if you flew around the earth so fast in one direction that you crossed the International Dateline multiple times in twenty-four hours? Would you force your own calendar time to fly forward or backward at an accelerated rate? Having written that, I remember that the answer is no – I know I’ve had this conversation in a classroom somewhere sometime, and the IDL was created to solve that problem – so that if you circumnavigate the globe the net adjustment to your personal time is zero. At least, I’m pretty sure of that.
A quick look online didn’t find much scholarly discussion (although there is quite a bit about the problems the IDL presents to Jewish people in relation to celebrating the Sabbath properly), although the Wikipedia article had an interesting bit about how when the ragged remnants of Magellan’s crew returned home after circumnavigating the globe, they were sure it was one particular day, but found on coming ashore that the people there knew it to be a day different – causing an uproar which resulted in sending a delegation to the Pope to discuss this temporal problem.
I’ve always been fascinated by time travel – how cool it would be to be able to go back to revisit parts of our lives. Although, I can’t think of much that I would go back and change, there are many things I would like to see again – so maybe rather than time travel I would be happy with perfect recall.
It’s nearly impossible to pull off time travel in a fiction setting, though – one of the things I always disliked about Star Trek TNG was how many times they fell back on the "temporal anomaly" plotline. It seemed to happen a lot. Don’t get me wrong, I liked TNG, a lot – so don’t yell at me.
The Butterfly Effect was a cool treatment of the problems of changing the past (and one of a very small handful of movies in which Ashton Kutcher was actually interesting). Much cooler, I think, would be to go forward and see the future (a la H.G. Wells) – that way, you don’t have to worry about falling in love with one of your ancestors, or running over your grandfather and erasing your existence.
Once you introduce time travel into a work of fiction, it’s hard to not have it spin into an impractical dilemma. As in – "if Dumbledore has access to a Time- Turner, why doesn’t he just go back to when Tom Riddle was a child and lock him in a cave (or give him lots of hugs)?"
I would love to see where humankind gets themselves to one hundred or one thousand years from now. I guess deep down I’m an optimist on what humans can and will accomplish – obviously, we have a lot of problems as a species (especially with being peaceful with each other) – but I think ultimately humans will always work towards better ways to exist, as a simple matter of survival. I’m not saying that there won’t be conflict or that we will all be living in some utopia in the next century (or even in the next millenium) -but I do feel that as a whole, we will be in a better place then. That’s probably from watching too many Star Trek episodes (TOS) as a child.
Speaking of time, it’s now rolled past midnight – but I started this entry yesterday (forty minutes ago) so hopefully the NoJoMo police won’t tell me I’m disqualified. Kidding – I know they are not that kind of people.
Last thing – tomorrow (today) is Election Day – if you’re in the U.S., get out and exercise your constitutional rights by participating in our democratic process! Personally, I’ll be glad to see the governor’s race in my state over with – it’s been an ugly pile of poodoo.
The DiaryMaster
What would happen if you flew around the earth so fast in one direction that you crossed the International Dateline multiple times in twenty-four hours? You would suffer the effects of a Circadian rhythm.
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having to take time to battle cancer with chemo has placed me in a different kind of warp. it has to do with suddenly having my world stopped. i keenly feel and see the world continues to turn, people living out their daily routine, when mine has become focused on treatments and fighting this “thing” inside me..and feeling lousy. i wonder, had i stepped into a time machine and could have seen thatthis cancer was to be, would i have been proactive and try to change the war within me? now that i’m going thru this i would have to say no, because the rewards have been so numerous, they far outweigh this interruption in my lifes journey. thank you for OD. the people that i’ve connected with thru the years have continued to be an amazing support during this time. chemo makes me foggy, but i hope i conveyed myself well. if not i’m hoping you can read between the lines.
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I’d only be interested in time travel if it could speed me through exams and boring lectures…other than that, I’m rather content with enjoying every second just as it comes. 🙂
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This is an extremely belated RYN, but thank you very much! It feels good to be back!
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I’d do the time travel things only if I could pick and choose where I wanted to go back to. If I had to do it ALL over, the Hell with it,lol.
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crossing the international date line can also create some confusion if you are on the pill. or probably any sort of medication.
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I always wondered why, in the Butterfly Effect, he didn’t go back to the same time until he got it right. I can’t remember all of the details of that movie now, but I don’t remember any rules that said he had to jump to numerous locations/times.
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If the world changes as much in the next 100 years as it has in the past it will be a much better place to live. People will even learn to be kind to one another. I would love a ride in a UFO .
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That’s relativity in action. Astronauts see 6 or 7 (I’ve forgotten the number)sunrises in each day. In essence, they’re cheating time…or maybe time is cheating them; I never figured that out.
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cool the Dm is doing NoJoMo!!! How do you like it so far?
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I’m all for exercising constitutional rights, but I know nothing about the elections this year.
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*grin* I hopped onto a plane about six weeks ago (six weeks, two days ago). I got on the plane @ 1 pm. I arrived at my destination @ 4:15 PM the next day. Now I am perpetually between 14 and 20 hours ahead of all my friends (and they ask me what the future is like). All I know is that the sun never set though we were on that plane FOREVER! (14 or so hour flight). Sucked w/4 kids.
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Did you see the film “Sliding Doors”? I don’t want to time travel, but I would like to rewind to a few spots and see it again — notice someone I had not noticed before that, or see if someone I know now was actually there. THAT would be cool.
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Jesus says if you trust in Him you won’t be concerned about time when you leave this world – time will be no more – and you will spend eternity with Him.
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Funny entry! Love this one! Yea, why don’t Dumbledore lock up Voldemort or why not God lock Lucifer and lots of hugs??? he, he, he … Keep up NoJoMo! Yea! *I wish I have much time for this but I don’t. Geeezzzzz … Wish you well and MAY THE FORCE BE WITH U, MASTER! 😀
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Interesting thoughts. Things like this usually get discussed by me and the wife while we’re laying in bed trying – and failing – to sleep. LOL xoxo
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You know, I have crossed the IDL and yes, it was as anticlimactic as you would expect. I was in the air. The most interesting would be a trip (or two) from Japan to Hawaii. I did that, and that’s what pointed out the extreme difference (18 hours difference I believe, and an incredibly short flight in comparison to flying to the US). I loved this entry… The loops of time travelin fiction would end up leading us back, because if Dumbledore gave a lot of hugs to Tom Riddle, wouldn’t someone else felt a little (lot) left out and became something awful too? Just thinking… *smiles*
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Odd, that just after watching last night’s recording of Hereos (in which the two main characters in this episode had the power of time travel and a perfect recall memory), I should come here to find the first entry I read (this one) happens to mention those same two things.
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LOL @ the Dumbledore/Tom Riddle reference. So true!
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I think time travel would be interesting but I am more interested in teleportation. My daughter lives in US with her husband and I live in Australia so we use OD as a main means of keeping up to date with each other’s lives. Wouldn’t it be great to be able to visit quickly and easily? The plane trips take far too long. Can’t possibly call in for a weekend visit.
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Star Trek First Contact was on last night and I always laugh at how easily at the end they recreate the “temporal vortex” and travel back to their own time. Talk about convenient eh? When they need to (Star Trek 4 Voyage Home) they seem to get it super accurate… yet any other time… no idea 🙂
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I crossed the date line when I went to Fiji a few years ago. It was odd to leave one day, and 10.5 hours later arrive TWO days after I left. My friend, who was with me, asked how it worked when we returned. I told her we would get home “yesterday.” She hit me really hard on my arm! ~~~ I agree… The Butterfly Effect was one of about… ONE Ashton Kutcher movie I sat all the way through. —
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I prefer to live in the present moment… all this talk about time travel is silly to me. I have no desire to revisit my past or see my future. All I need is this exact moment, right now.
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Great entry!
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There was a science fiction story called “Up the Line” by Silverberg. That was a very good treatment of it. And “Forever War.” by Joe Haldeman. Neat note a bout Magellan’s crew.
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hehe i just loved how you through in harry potter in your entry
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Your Dumbledore question reminded me of what Scott Evil asked Dr. Evil in Austin Powers, about if he has a time machine, why doesn’t he just go back in time and shoot Austin Powers while he’s sitting on the crapper? “Temporal anomaly” and “alternate timeline” (a la Back to the Future) work well enough, I guess. But what bugs me about traveling to the future to see whathappens is, if you have left the present, how would that change the future you’d see? And how much would the future change, then, if you came back to the present and knew about the future, or if you decided to stay in the future instead of go back at what point would it be a different future and *splode*.
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i have enough trouble keeping up with one time zone. take care,
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I love this entry! I actually can’t stand time travel as a literary device for that reason. Especially when you get into the whole – by going back in time you caused the thing that made you go back in time – paradox. Yet, so many of my favorite things do involve Time Travel. (I LOVE TNG…although the Q episodes are my very favorites). Did you ever see the DS9 with the Time Police…that made me laugh (I think it’s DS9). I just wish I could OBSERVE though. I’d love to observe my own wedding, actually. I hate Daylight Savings Time in general, but it’s kind of like ‘time travel’…you just randomly gain an hour of your life…or lose it…hehe. Speaking of time and religion (your Sabbath comment made me think of it)…one thing that is kind of interesting is that a lot of the symbolism of certain Catholic feasts takes advantage of (or hijacks, depending on your pov) days getting longer or shorter. For instance, the Feast of John the Baptist is around the summer equinox, when the days get shorter, because John’s words about him decereasing and Jesus increasing.
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Likewise, the whole Christmas being around the winter equinox. But in the southern hemisphere, they have to come up with new symbolism, which is kind of funny 🙂
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No election here. Nice to see you every day.
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I waver back and forth in my optimism about humanity. Sometimes I think we’ll have all killed each other in a thousand years…other times I think, no, it’s going to be great. I don’t know.
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I’ve crossed the IDL many times. It just makes you jetlagged.
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I have enough trouble with the little bit of time I have now, I can’t imagine trying to deal with more or less! LOL And no, the NoJoMo police will not disqualify you!
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Have you read the Time Traveler’s Wife? Ignore the movie, which was dumb. The book is amazing.
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Oh, also Time’s Arrow by Martin Amis. It’s fantastic.
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i think its funny that you spent three words on the daily challenge and you wrote a small book on something completely different. its okay though, it was entertaining to read.
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“do you have any piercings?” Well, yeah. IN 1989, my back was not only pierced but carved out to remove a malignant melanoma. In 2000, I was pierced—and carved—from belly button to balls—during my prostatectomy. Both piercings resulted in cancer survival, so they make sense to me. Sticking hideously ugly things into your lip, eyebrow, nose, etc. makes NO sense to me.
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Nope, we’re all going to die in 2012.
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I absolutely LOVE any fiction that has to do with time travel. As for time travel compared to perfect recall, the great thing about time travel is that you get to “experience” it in the past, not just watch it in your memory. 🙂 Eric
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I enjoyed reading this entry! Especially the part about the conundrums created by using time travel in fiction… eg dumbledore etc… 🙂
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Hello Mr. Bruce. My friend Spilledperfume wants to adopt one of your cats that you found. She wanted to adopt one of the others you found last time. Will you please respond to her diary and let her adopt one. She is a good pet owner like I’am. Thanks. :))
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I loved the four times I crossed the international date line… I lost two days for ever and lived two days twice.
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Hammer time?
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people in space cross the dateline lots in 24 hours. nothing happens! except they see a lot of sunrises and sets in a 24 hour period. nature doesnt care about our stoopid calenders
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I really enjoyed this entry. Just thought I’d let you know.
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You have got to watch the independent film Primer. Its the best movie on time travel I’ve ever seen.
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Somebody’s probably already mentioned this, but if you’re into time travel, you’d like the show LOST. But you must start from season 1, or you’ll be tres confused!
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