Salvation
Its rather early right now (6:15AM) and Ive already been up for close to two hours. So I was sitting here just doing nothing, wasting time that someday Ill probably wish I hadnt wasted, when something just popped into my head (as many things do).
Anyone who has ever been to a church and heard a salvation message or who has been witnessed to by someone should know what Im talking about here. It has to do with the plan of salvation.
If you go and ask any good Christian how to be saved or how to go to heaven, they will most likely say something to the effect of the following; First, you have to realize that you are a sinner. Second, you have to realize that God loves you and made a way out for you(I wonder who made the way in?). Third, you pray a prayer and ask Jesus into your heart.
Now although I could argue the Biblical validity of this little plan for hours, thats not what Im writing about. Im writing about the whole plan itself.
You see, according to Christians, all you have to do is follow the steps, connect the dots and youre saved. Christians have reduced salvation to a simple formula that, if you do it, guarantees you entrance to the pearly gates. If you admit that youre a sinner and pray a prayer asking forgiveness, then youre pretty much set.
I have to wonder, if God is really as infinite as the Bible says, can either he or his plan of salvation be reduced to such a trivial little recipe? Hmmmm .
As I was writing this little part above, something else came to my mind. It has to do with the part about salvation being a free gift.
Now churches and Christians will quote the book of Romans all over the place to try to convince people that salvation is Gods free gift to us and that all we have to do is take it. They beat into peoples heads that it is FREE and that there is nothing we can do to earn it. And this is where I think theyre wrong.
There is a verse in Romans that talks about salvation being the free gift of God, and not by works. Basically people interpret that to mean that there is nothing you can do to earn your salvation, that it is totally dependent on God and what Jesus did when he died on the cross.
Heres the problem with that; no matter how you try and word it, you cannot be saved (according to the Bible and Christianity) without action on your part. YOU are the one who has to believe, YOU are the one who has to ask forgiveness, YOU are the one who has to have faith, etc. All this stuff that people try to make the masses believe about salvation not being by works is crap. Anything you do, even something as internal as believing, is a work that you do. It is something that no one can do for you, and yet without it you cant be saved.
Without the works of faith, belief, asking forgiveness, and some other things, you cant be saved (can you? If you CAN be saved without those things, Id love to learn how), and thus salvation (as put forth in the Bible) IS gained by participation on our part.
If salvation was truly Gods free gift and wasnt gained by works then he would have to save everyone no matter what they did or didnt do. He would have to save both those who accept his gift and those who dont, because if he only saved those who accepted his gift it wouldnt be free-it would be conditional upon the work of accepting that gift.
To possibly make myself clearer, lets look at something else that God supposedly gives us no matter what, not depending on our works. According to the Bible and Christians, God loves us all unconditionally. He loves us no matter what we do, or dont do. In other words, his love isnt dependent on our works.
So if salvation is a free gift, as his love supposedly is, and isnt gained by works (which means anything that we would have to do in order to gain it), as his love supposedly isnt, how can anyone NOT be saved? If his love and salvation are both free, how can you have one without the other?
Personally I think the whole thing about free salvation is just a way to keep seats full.
But whatever, I gotta hit the shower. Hopefully Ive had my bit of revelation for the day and I can just go about my business.
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Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
Please, please
Spreading his disease, living by his story
Knees, knees
Falling to your knees, suffer for His glory
You will
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Time for lust, time for lies
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And youll get a better seat
Bow to the Leper Messiah
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Marvel at His tricks, need your Sunday fix
Blind devotion came, rotting your brain
Chain, chain
Join the endless chain, taken by his glamour
Fame, fame
Infection is the game, stinking drunk with power
We see
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Time for lust, time for lies
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And youll get a better seat
Bow to the Leper Messiah
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Witchery, weakening
Sees the sheep are gathering
Set the trap, hypnotize
Now you follow
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Time for lust, time for lies
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And youll get a better seat
Bow to the Leper Messiah
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Lie
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ryn: lol.. i get penis enlargement ones all the time… Its nuts.. Dani, enlarge your penis up to 2 inches safely and naturally….lol
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I think you put so eloquently into words what I have been trying to get across for eons. It’s just one hypocrisy after another. *growls* Thank you for this. 😉
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welp, sweet pea, getting *saved* is really just that simple. They arent pulling something over. It doesnt take a great deal of work. God didnt make it to take a whole bunch of work, because He wants everyone with Him. Ya know? we make it seem so much harder than it actually is. We think, well I’ve done all this stuff..and if only you knew what I’ve done…
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(cont) but you see, God already knows all that, and he loves us anyway. So it’s all on us. Belief..is the only thing it takes baby cakes ;o) RYN:I laughed all the way thru your notes. It was like one of the big bright spots in the day where I have to go do this book report with nicky, and he picked this *insect book* but its not a kids book its like a
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(cont) freaking science book. But I read the directions, and its like *tell about the book or something you’ve learned* so I’m like *we’re gonna pick something learn it and your gonna write about it. I’m so not happy with this I actually dreamed about it last night. so weird!! umma..no I didnt sit there on purpose, thats where everyone I was with was sitting..so therefore! lol
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(cont) I was across the aisle from them. umma..what else did you say? I think we should really talk more often cuz these stupid notes take so long to leave, and you only get 400 characters. So then you cant write a whole stinking email or anything, just four hundred little characters. But anywhose, I think I’ve left you almost as many notes as you left me…thehe
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So I’ll talk to you soon (hopefully tonite, cuz its my last night at home) and I love ya lots! Have a great day at work! Dont do anything I wouldnt do!! Buh-bye Jaimie Joel!!
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I think works and participation are two different things. If you talk to someone. You are participating. Anything you do. You participate. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t be part of it now would you? “works” salvation, is saying that you have to do good things to get to heaven. Grace doesn’t say that there is no participation on your part. See what I mean jelly bean? Love you
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Also, I wish you were online. But allie tells me you had to go back to work. that kind of sucks, cuz I’ve missed you over the past week or so. Come to Illinois! haha See ya around
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I agree with you on many points…but i think part of your problem lies in your assumption that “christians” know any more about God than you do.trust no one.Religion is an opiate for the masses.I propose that if all the people in church (“christians, if you will) had half the capacity to think as you possess, 99% of them would come to the exact same conclusions that you have.Ask me how I know…
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