Abortion-Part Two
As promised, heres my ponderings on the whole abortion thing. I said in my previous entry on the topic that I really dont care one way or the other on the whole issue, which I dont. It does seem to me that many people who are concerned about whether abortions are right or wrong, and should be legal or illegal, have failed to satisfactorily answer the two questions that the issue pivots on.
First, what is it that makes a person alive or possess life. Second, when does that become present in an organism which if allowed to fully develop will become a human being.
Im aware that both sides have stated opinions that they would use to answer both of these questions, but I really dont think there is much proof to back up the opinions of either side.
The most common stance of Pro-Lifers (at least from what Ive heard) is that life begins at conception. According to them, the moment that the genetic material in a sperm and an egg merge and the cell splits into two, that is a developing human being who is worth the same protection as the mother carrying it.
The most common stance of Pro-Choicers (at least from what Ive heard) is that life occurs when a child is born, or when it is near-term if the mother wants it. According to them, what inside of a woman up until that time is simply a growing mass of cells which are part of a womans body, much like a cancerous tumor.
There are many variations of both of these, and some opinions totally unlike them, but these are the two sides Ive heard the most, and theyre the ones Ive been thinking about.
The problem I have with the Pro-Lifers position of life beginning at conception is that it is very hard to give a tiny mass of cells the same value as a person who has been born.
Every day, each person on earth loses thousands and thousands of cells from their body, yet this doesnt affect how alive they are. We dont have a part of us that exists somewhere in between life and death simply because some of our cells die off. It seems that although cells may exhibit the characteristics of being alive, they dont individually possess whatever it is that gives a person life. Thus, I dont think that a small mass of cells that will eventually turn into a person, if allowed to grow, is alive simply because of that fact.
The problem I have with Pro-Choicers view is that babies that are born prematurely can be kept alive and be allowed to develop into a child even if they are born at the same stage that some abortions are carried out.
Ive heard a few people argue that it isnt truly a child and isnt truly alive because it cannot survive outside of the mother. So, because it is dependant on the mother it is actually considered a part of the mother.
If the reason that it isnt alive though is because it cant survive without the mothers help, does that mean that premature babies who are born but cant survive without the help of machines arent entirely alive? Or are old people or those who have been seriously injured and depend on machines to keep them going somehow less alive because they wouldnt be able to survive on their own?
One thing Ive found rather strange is how women are allowed to get abortions, yet in cases where women are assaulted or killed while pregnant and the fetus/child/whatever is lost (the Lacy Peterson case is a good example) the perpetrator can be charged with murder because of the effect of their action.
If a fetus/child/whatever truly isnt alive and isnt a real human until it is born, then no one should be able to be charged with murder if one of those dies as a result of their criminal actions. Then again, if it is possible for someone to be charged with murder because they kill a fetus/child/whatever in their attack of the mother, then abortion should never be legal. If people think that the only thing that makes a fetus/child/whatever alive is whether or not it is wanted, theyre rather arrogant and stupid.
To jump a little bit here, Ive heard that if abortion is made illegal that many women will die in back alleys from coathanger abortions. Due to how quick people are to pop that one out (no pun intended) when anyone says anything even remotely threatening to having full abortionary rights, I think its more of a cliché than something that society would really have to worry about.
I really have no answers to the questions I posed at the beginning of this, and I have yet to meet anyone who does. As I said though, I dont see how people can make a decision on this topic either way without having those answers (if they do, they are presuming quite a bit). Maybe it would be a good idea to spend some money and figure those out.
As Ive said in many previous entries, I think its always selfish to have or conceive children. But since very few people agree with me, I think I have a solution that would satisfy both sides of this argument, because it would eliminate the need for abortions to ever occur.
My plan is that the government would form a massive Federal Fertility Bureau (or something like that). Everyone would be required by law to get their eggs or sperm harvested and stored in this system somewhere, and then would be sterilized. Then when a couple is prepared to have children, they can go to the Bureau and the woman can get impregnated. That way, there wouldnt be unwanted pregnancies, no women would be getting pregnant from being raped, people could screw all they wanted and only have to worry about STDs, and both sides could go and find a different issue to bitch at each other about.
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Im ethereal, my children are legion, serial
They stick to my skin like beloved cysts
I tear away with my nails and teeth and fists
Touch the hands of inverted saints
Follow my heart through the threaded pain
Callow man is a sentinel screaming
I see the future; the future is bleeding
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Everywhere you look its like they know
Their fingerprints are hidden by CONTROL
This is where the line is drawn, see?
YOU CANT TAKE MY SOUL AWAY FROM ME.
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Slipknot
The New Abortion
Hey, Mr 1984, I didn’t read all of this entry, but I think your well thought-out plan is chilling. We are, above all else, human beings with dreams and hopes and aspirations and serious flaws, and we make horrible mistakes and bad choices and occasionally we do marvelously wonderful things and select good partners and raise terrific children. It’s the stuff of life. Life. Life.
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Hmm. 1984. I think I’d go more with a Brave New World reference. Then again, I never finished reading 1984. I digess. Anyhow. I think abortions past the 1st trimester (13 weeks & a few days) should be illegal. I’ve heard of premature babies surviving at 23/24 weeks . . .
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(c) I think if the baby/fetus/whatever would be viable then whoever killed it should be charged with murder. Whether it be the person who assaulted the pregnant woman, or the pregnant woman who aborts. I don’t have any answers either. Just a lot of opinions that don’t mean shit. 😉
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Why does everyone keep calling you Mr. 1984? did I miss something here? Well, I’d argue this with you. But there’s really no point in it..heh. You nicely portrayed both sides of the argument though :o) Good job. You should be a writer ya know…
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I think you should be considered *alive* the same way you can be considered *dead*, that being brain waves. Your heart may be beating, but if you’re brain dead they can turn off the machines.
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First of all, abortions past the first trimester are not done unless the pregnancy is an extreme danger to the mother or child. Secondly, I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but I have never heard anyone say (and I’ve discussed abortions many, many times with many different people) that a child isn’t considerted to be “alive” until it is born. You must be talking to a bunch of –
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– fecking idiots with no idea of what they are talking about. I’ve had one abortion in my life, and one live birth. I never once considered my daughter not to be “alive” until she was born. In my opinion, and the opinion of many others, when the egg and sperm become more than just a mass of cells and actually become a fetus, that’s when it should be considered “alive”. That’s when it develops –
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– lungs, eyes, a heart, etc. I noticed that you didn’t include anything about this in your entry. Maybe you shouldn’t comment on this subject since you are, in fact, a man, and it doesn’t affect you either way. You’ll never be faced with the coice of whether to have an abortion or not, so just leave it alone – really.
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