A Debate

[09:49] SingingCricket07: monkey!!
[09:49] SingingCricket07: 😉
[09:49] SingingCricket07: i mean 🙂
[09:50] jim_koski: monkey???? like chim-chim?
[09:50] SingingCricket07: eh – it’s a term of endearment.  i call all my good friends monkey at some point – particularly in greeting. 🙂
[09:51] SingingCricket07: so how was the weekend?
[09:53] jim_koski: Pretty good, I got to go on a ride Sunday and we speny yesterday at my mom & dad’s beach. Plus, Friday night Laurel & I went and saw X-Men
[09:53] SingingCricket07: we saw that sunday 🙂
[09:54] jim_koski: How ’bout you?
[09:54] SingingCricket07: jon complained (as usual) that it didn’t follow the origional story line … but it was still a good movie 🙂
[09:54] SingingCricket07: well, saturday we … um … i don’t remember what we did saturday.
[09:54] SingingCricket07: oh wait!
[09:55] SingingCricket07: i remember we went and saw our friend james for dinner in the evening …
[09:55] SingingCricket07: rest of the day is a blank, though
[09:56] SingingCricket07: sunday we went and saw the movie, did some more unpacking, got some new fish
[09:56] SingingCricket07: for the tank
[09:56] SingingCricket07: not to eat
[09:56] SingingCricket07: then monday we went to jon’s godfather’s mother’s memorial service on the west side of cleveland in almost-90 degreee weather
[09:57] SingingCricket07: i almost died
[10:09] SingingCricket07: then we went to his godfather’s house for lunch, then we went to my parents’ house for dinner, then we went home and didn’t to diddly shit for the rest of the day.
[10:09] SingingCricket07:  🙂
[10:13] jim_koski: after all that, how much of a ‘rest of the day’ was there?
[10:14] SingingCricket07: well, i think we left my parents’ around 7
[10:15] SingingCricket07: but i fogot that it takes me more than 10 minutes to get ready for something, so we ended up being up til midnight getting ready for my interview today … eee!
[10:15] SingingCricket07: {bites nails}
[10:20] jim_koski: What time is it and what cover story did you come up with?
[10:20] SingingCricket07: it’s at 3, so technically it doesn’t matter, cuz i’m supposed to leave at 2
[10:21] SingingCricket07: but red all but threatened that if i don’t have all the disking, filing and BoLs done by two, i couldn’t leave
[10:21] jim_koski: Are you running home to get all dolled up?
[10:21] jim_koski: Cleavage never hurts…
[10:22] SingingCricket07: yeah, i’m running home, but my interviewer is a woman, so i don’t think cleavage is gonna do me much good
[10:22] SingingCricket07: i wish i had thought of all this last night before 11 pm; i wish i’d had time to paint my nails.   they’re all chewed up
[10:22] jim_koski: you never know… she could play for the other team…. I guess that would be my team, wouldn’t it?LOL
[10:22] SingingCricket07: right.
[10:23] SingingCricket07: i don’t think i’d be that lucky
[10:23] SingingCricket07: and i’ve never been hit on by any but one of my numerous lesbian aquaintences, and that one was bi, more than gay, which in my mind just means they’re so horney they’ll take it from anybody
[10:24] SingingCricket07: so that doesn’t qualify
[10:25] jim_koski: What was Jon’s reaction?
[10:42] SingingCricket07: to what?
[10:42] SingingCricket07: me being hit on?
[10:43] SingingCricket07: he wasn’t around – this was in highschool
[10:47] jim_koski: So your bisexual friend hit on you in high school….? Excuse me while I ponder that for a while…….. :@)
[10:53] SingingCricket07: you, sir, are a goober
[10:53] SingingCricket07: besides, never happen in a lifetime.
[10:53] jim_koski: I’m a peanut?
[10:53] SingingCricket07: abby has way too many issues and too poor taste in men for me to even THINK about being a switch hitter
[10:54] SingingCricket07: at least with her …
[10:55] jim_koski: Ok, so you haven’t completely ruled it out…. It’s a matter of negotiaton and qualifications? 🙂
[10:55] SingingCricket07: and whether or not i get the jibblies
[10:56] SingingCricket07: and whether or not Jon can play too
[10:56] jim_koski: Is Jon aware of this? Does he know he’s *this close* to the jackpot?
[10:57] SingingCricket07: oh, he knows that there’s a faint possibility – maybe
[10:57] jim_koski: If not, someone whould tell the boy…
[10:57] SingingCricket07: he also knows i’m very, VERY VERY picky
[10:57] jim_koski: should… fuck!
[10:57] SingingCricket07: heh – blood rushing away from the brain ..?
[10:59] SingingCricket07: besides, it’s mostly a matter of whether or not Jon can play too – i still like boys better 😉
[11:02] jim_koski: I’ve said it before… I can’t imagine why any woman would be attracted to a man… we definitely get the better part of the equation….
[11:06] SingingCricket07: heh – i’ll tell you why: as long as you fit well in the saddle, you can ride for a lifetime 😉
[11:08] SingingCricket07: plus you get the added bonus of constant facination from them, because you have parts that they don’t have and they can’t seem to stop playing with them.
[11:08] SingingCricket07: not quite the same if you’re with someone who’s got the same parts you do …
[11:08] jim_koski: We’re like cats with balls of yarn…
[11:08] SingingCricket07: trust me – i’ve noticed
[11:08] SingingCricket07: 🙂
[11:08] SingingCricket07: be back in a short …
[11:09] SingingCricket07: brb
[11:20] SingingCricket07: yay i’m back!
[11:20] SingingCricket07: i know you missed me …
[11:20] SingingCricket07: (angelh)
[11:30] SingingCricket07: anyway, how the heck did we get on that subject, anyway?
[11:31] jim_koski: My powerful subconscious influences not only myself, but those around me?8-|
[11:31] SingingCricket07: either that or you’re just that randy …
[11:33] jim_koski: 29 years and counting……
[11:33] SingingCricket07: {vibevibe} you will give me image fodder for those late-night hours … {vibevibe}
[11:34] jim_koski: Well, I am imaginative… >:)
[11:35] SingingCricket07: uh-huh … most guys are …
[11:36] jim_koski: we spend a lot of our teen years planning and plotting…
[11:36] SingingCricket07: right.  and then "imaginative" becomes "delusional"
[11:36] SingingCricket07: heehee
[11:37] jim_koski: not if it allows you to close the deal…
[11:39] SingingCricket07: well, let me put it to you this way:  if women allowed themselves to activly pursue OUR secret plots and dreams – y’all’d run screaming
[11:40] SingingCricket07: the male half of humanity would be able to take it for about a week
[11:40] jim_koski: I don’t think you’d be able to wear out the 15-30 age group…
[11:41] SingingCricket07: oh trust me – i do
[11:41] SingingCricket07: it’s not so much a question of wearing out – it’s a question of breaking in.
[11:42] SingingCricket07: (devil)
[11:42] jim_koski: I’m not buying it….
[11:43] SingingCricket07: you haven’t asked a woman what her deepest fantasies are and gotten an honest answer, then.
[11:45] jim_koski: You’re assuming that a) the majority of women have similar fantasies and b) they are terribly different from a man’s honest ones…
[11:45] SingingCricket07: primarily because we’re afraid that if we actually TOLD you, you’d run away.
[11:47] jim_koski: Well, it depend on who you tell… a guy in a bar or the guy you’ve d lived with for 3 years….
[11:47] SingingCricket07: even then
[11:48] jim_koski: motherfrakkin typos….
[11:48] SingingCricket07: i’m not just making this up – i’m speaking of more opinions than just my own
[11:50] jim_koski: I’m not saying there’s no truth to what you’re saying… a man’s ego can be a fragile thing. But the same can be said for a woman. The difference is that a man’s fantasies surprises no one.
[11:50] SingingCricket07: exactly
[11:51] SingingCricket07: they’ve been acting them out for much, much longer, so there’s not much new material out there.
[11:51] SingingCricket07: but the closer a man is, the harder it is to say what’s going on in the very back corner of your mind, because "if they don’t like it, they’re going to leave"
[11:52] SingingCricket07: with guys, it’s "if they don’t like it, i’ll find another one"
[11:52] SingingCricket07: it’s all instinct at that point
[11:52] SingingCricket07: at the baby-making level
[11:53] jim_koski: but if a man doesn’t expect a woman’s drives to be completely different than his (except for that damned shoe thing) he shouldn’t be surprised….
[11:53] SingingCricket07: "if he doesn’t like it, i won’t get a baby" and "if she doesn’t like it, i’ll find one who will"
[11:54] jim_koski: I you really believe that, then you need to expand the circle of men you know.
[11:56] SingingCricket07: yes, but very few will actually take the time to figure that out (about the drive thing)
[11:58] SingingCricket07: and if i try to explain this to the circle of guys i know, they will either imediately get horney, or laugh
[11:59] SingingCricket07: i mean, what do you call a woman who’s horney a lot?  "nympho"
[11:59] SingingCricket07: what do you call a guy that’s horney a lot?
[11:59] SingingCricket07: "normal"
[11:59] jim_koski: Thankfully, I learned that lesson early, but the other part of the problem is that women need to level with us and be honest about what they want and need instead of all this phoney facade bullshit we’ve been fed all are lives.
[11:59] jim_koski: "a find"
[12:00] SingingCricket07: fulfiling the expectation of being pure, chaste and hard-to-get is half the problem
[12:01] jim_koski: look, I always thought you guys were horney like that… every girlfriend I ever had…. yeow…
[12:01] jim_koski: except that one… but she was younger…
[12:02] jim_koski: so I figured… it was just the age thing and I never pushed it….. ( so to speak)
[12:04] SingingCricket07: "nudge-nudge wink-wink saynomore!!"
[12:05] jim_koski: My girlfrind my senior year would have made Caligula blush….
[12:06] SingingCricket07: that takes some doing …
[12:06] SingingCricket07: literally …
[12:09] SingingCricket07: let’s put it this way – the three guys i was actually willing to attempt being  physical with before Jon – two couldn’t even get things going (despite plenty of encouragement) and the other was, well, let’s just say – immemorable.
[12:12] jim_koski: All I can say is that I had the advantage of being instructed before set loose.
[12:12] SingingCricket07: and he was the one who popped the cherry
[12:14] SingingCricket07: anyway – what toasty weather we’re having eh?
[12:15] jim_koski: See, I always assumed that the girls weren’t virgins…. a little warning would have been nice.
[12:15] jim_koski: Sex is like dinner at a chinese resturant. The meal ain’t over ’till the girl gets her cookie.
[12:16] SingingCricket07: heh.  if only more guys thought that way …
[12:17] jim_koski: LIke I said… I was taught early… love those catholic girls…..
[12:18] SingingCricket07: oh brother
[12:18] jim_koski: Yes… the weather… lat night was down right ….. sultry…
[12:19] SingingCricket07: i don’t even wanna know
[12:19] jim_koski: LOL