Abortion
Ok, not intending to offend anyone, so I wanted to put the subject right in the title, because if you’re going to be offended by an opinion on this subject, just stop reading now. Ok? Thanks.
There’s a girl I hate at work. And there’s another girl who I really like, and we talk all the time. We both have some fertility issues, and both want to have babies in the near future, so we talk about that a lot. The girl I hate is one of these people who jumps in on conversations that are none of her business, so whenever we talk about babies, she has to comment, "I don’t EVER want kids. I don’t know why anyone would want them."
Ok. Fine.
So yesterday, she said that again, and the other girl finally asked if she would change her mind if she got pregnant. And she (very nonchalantly) answered, "Oh, I’ve been pregnant a few times. I got rid of them." (she also continued this conversation despite the rest of us trying to stop it, and went on to say that she thinks fertility problems are nature’s way of telling you that you shouldn’t have children–but that’s a whole different issue)
In the legal and political sense, I’m technically pro-choice. That’s mostly because there are circumstances (rape, incest, medical reasons) where I think it needs to be legal. And I would rather it be safe and regulated than done illegally in some back alley.
But like a lot of other things, my rational point of view is at odds with how I feel about it. It bothers me to no end that this girl has had "several" abortions. And the first was when she was 21, so it’s not even like she was a teenager or something. It makes me sad to think of the babies that didn’t get a chance to live, and also the couples that would have loved to adopt those children.
I just think that if you’re in your 20’s, healthy, and you make the choice to have sex, you should be prepared to deal with the consequences. It honestly strikes me as kind of a selfish decision, because really it’s saying that the baby’s life isn’t worth a few months of inconvenience. I know that not everyone is ready to be a parent (and believe me, this girl should NOT be raising a kid), but there are more than just the two options of either raising the baby or "getting rid of it."
I really wish that the pro-choice organizations (like planned parenthood) would compromise a little. Why not have mandatory counseling before agreeing to do an abortion? Why not try to get someone (especially a healthy, 20-something girl) to see that 9 months of being pregnant will not ruin her life, and direct her to adoption agencies. I mean, at least try a little.
I know I’m probably offending people on both sides. I wish there were more of a middle ground with this. I wish that pro-life people could make exceptions for rape, incest, medical problems, etc., and that pro-choice people could at least acknowledge that abortion should be a last resort, and that it IS a big deal and very sad when it happens. Like so many things, it just seems to be more about being right than about doing the right thing.
I don’t know. Opinions?
Nope. I’m pro-choice, however, as I always say, I will NOT support suzy fluzy who screws around and has to get her 2183475th abortion. People always tell me that never happens Well, phooey on them, because here’s proof.
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The reason neither side will give a little is because of how they view a little. If you believe that it’s about a woman having absolute control over her body, then how can you compromise an adult’s control over her body? If you believe abortion is really murder of a child, then how can you compromise on making murder acceptable? It’s tough.
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Im pro-choice. I totally agree with you about the adoption thing. I think people who have abortions though “just because” are selfish. I mean, if the pregnancy is life threatening or caused by rape/incest.. then I could probably see getting an abortion. But the way that girl is, in my opinion SHE doesnt even deserve to be alive. It would have taken all I had not to sock her right in the face.
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Or, is there such a thing as pro-choice to an extent? That’d be me… I dont think its ok just to do just because.
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I’m pro-choice, for those reasons! If you are ‘responsible’ enough to have sex, you should take responsibility in the consequences! That is a perfect example of people taking things for granted!! It’s very childish and ignorant for what she said and for what she has done. THEN she was not wanted in ya’ll conversation.. if it happens again tell her that no one asked her and she needs to ‘kindly’ remove herself from the conversation. I would be so pissed if someone like that was talking to me, even if I wasn’t TTC.. That’s plain wrong!
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Wow, that b-tch is quite arrogant. I say stay away from her. The way she is nonchalant about abortion shows her ignorance- it’s a serious medical procedure, and the more you do it, the greater chance of a mishap.
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…*shakes his head* I for one do see it as murder. However, I do see one reason for it… if the mother is in danger for it, then there is a need. After all, you are risking two lives instead of one at that point… this lady… well b*tch IS the word for her…. simply put.
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Abortion. Just a word, to many people. Pregnant with my second son, seperated from his father, I burst into tears as I told my grandmother. She said “Do you want to abort it?” She didn’t use that disconnecting ‘tion’, instead she said ‘abort’- an active verb. And she said ‘it’- a noun. Abort meaning to end. It meaning my baby. Do you want to end your baby? If it were put that plainly more
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fewer people would do it, I think. Obviously it wouldn’t change the choice for everyone- but it would alter the statistics a little I think. And in her mind, she was telling me it was okay….
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RYN: Oh and RE Kaplan, I’m pretty sure they have education programs for higher than elementary education too. You can check it out at kaplan.edu, just give them your info and they’ll call you back- I was enrolled in classes within a week of first phone call and attending less than a month later.
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That makes me cry. What a whore.
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I am very proud of my 15 year old daughter who has chosen to not abort the child she conceived. I am less than three weeks away from meeting my granddaughter, and so excited I can barely sit still. A baby is a gift of life. PERIOD. The circumstances around a child conception is not relevant, in my opinion. It is a miracle. If the pregnant mother feels unable to raise the child…
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there are doctors and lawyers and people who have everything, but no children that would love to have a child, no questions asked. Life is a miracle. This is my opinion. This is how I feel. My mother almost aborted me. Not every day, but almost everyday, I thank her for not doing it.
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Perhaps this lady at work who had the abortions has completely numbed herself from the reality of what she has done. I would suggest that you show her the pain you feel when she talks about them….”Man, that must be such an aweful feeling to have to live with everyday.” stuff like that. It might never change anything, but what if it does?
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Haha what do you think?? Dork… If you go have an abortion or 200 I might change my tune but I was most definitely talking about her… She has no respect for human life…b/c that’s what is it that she has killed… a life. Super sad. We may never know what that child would have been capable of.
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Ha, you’re not dumb! You’re scared! Haha… No I mean, I don’t agree, I do think that it’s wrong 100% of the time, but I think people were just more responding to that lady… I think we’re ALL in agreement that that is wrong… So the heat was off of you! Ha, I guess everytime you want to write about controversial, have a scape goat like that… lol… Love you!
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I don’t think you can say you’re pro-choice “when…” because then you’re limiting another’s choices. You’re technically (although indirectly) forcing them to carry to term in certain situations. Abortion really is an all-or-nothing topic. Either it’s legal in all instances or it isn’t; it’s impossible to legislate the following hypotheticals: Person A: “Oh, it’s ok, you were raped, so you have the privilege of terminating that pregnancy if you so choose.” Person B: “No, you can’t terminate that pregnancy; you’re married with no kids, so you have to carry to term. Sorry. Better luck next time.” That’s what the opinion espoused here would come down to. Either a fetus has personhood and is protected under the law or it doesn’t, regardless of the circumstances surrounding its conception. A pregnancy is a pregnancy. Yes, we all wish abortions weren’t needed in society, but truly, it’s a personal decision. If a woman chooses to have 1 abortion/kid or 10 abortions/kids, or a combination of these, I have no say in the matter, and honestly, I don’t think it matters as long as she feels secure about her decisions (whether she chooses to terminate her pregnancy or carry
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a pregnancy to term. (I don’t know why I got cut off there! It said I had 1 character left! Sorry for the book.)
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