I Hate Conflict

I truely do.  I find debating entertaining, even fun at times, when dne with the right people.  But when you get a group, or even an individual, who is so damned passionate/obsessed/closed minded about a subject, things get tangled.

Yes, I am saying closed minded.  For all of you who decided to jump on me over notes I left, none of you bothered to find out if you even truly knew what I was saying before judging me, and quite hypocritically telling me “how dare you judge this.”

You see, I wrote about gay marriages from a Christian point of view, because whether anyone likes it or not, the churches are the ones who decide who to marry.  And the church, the entire Christian faith says that they will marry a man and a woman.  Or, to put it bluntly, “It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

Now, one person decided to actually dedicate an entire entry to my notes and the response, in which was written that not everyone believes the Christian faith, and just because it’s out there doesn’t mean everyone should have to follow it.  That’s absolutely true.  With religion, I feel that as long as it’s not some sadistic form of devil worshipping, or sacrifices, etc., that people should worship however and whoever feels right to them.  If that’s Christian, Wiccan, Judaism, or whatever.

“you say that if a union between two gays is to take place it shouldnt be called marriage.  well why not?  why would u want to change the definition of marriage just bc 2 gay ppl wanna marry bc by definition marriage means the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband and wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law.”

Right there, that is my entire point.  Marriage, by definition, means a union between two people OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.  I am not trying to change the defintion of marriage.  Every homosexual couple who is insisting that traditions, beliefs, etc., of the church be damned, they want to get married, they are the ones saying that the definiton should be changed.

And I will bring this point to you.  I have a Wiccan friend who did a hand fasting cerimony with a guy that she loved.  As far as Wiccans are concerned, at least as far as I know, that hand fasting cerimony is akin to a marriage.  Yet, it isn’t called a marriage.

You see, I’m not even sure what this “debate” or what can more accurately be called a note war is about.  Because these last few lines here, “but when u break it down and look at it logically it all boils down to this…not everyone believes the christian beliefs. and not everyone believes the same way i do so why should i infringe upon the rights of those who think and believe differently than i do?” are wrong.  That’s not what it boils down to at all.  On the subject of gay marriages, it boils down to this: Yes, they should have all the rights and claims that a marriage does.  But, if one or both of those people profess to be of a Christian faith, then they just have to accept the fact that a marriage will not, (or should not, anyway,) be performed for them, because when talking about the Christian faith, homosexuality has been condemned.  If they are of another religion, or don’t believe in a religion, or can find a figurehead of a different religion to wed them, so be it.  I’m not trying to say that homosexuals shouldn’t have the same rights in a union that heterosexual couples do.  But I am saying that they can’t, (or shouldn’t, anyway,) expect to be married in the church, under God, simply because of the very definition of what a marriage is.  A union between a man and a woman.

Not to mention that no matter what people say, and I did notice that some agreed with me on this point, the government should have no say in this matter.  It’s not a government issue, unless they’re going to grant civil unions, with all the rights of marriage, to gay couples.  The government should have no jurisdiction to be ordering churches to perform same sex marriages, simply because of what is supposed to be a seperation of church and state.

Okay.  I’ve said my piece on this.  Now, for those that noted me, if you read this, these are my parting words.  You were people who, either I found on random and noted, or who saw my notes, and noted me because of them.  I’d like to get back to enjoying writing about wat happens in my life, instead of writing about a worldly issue where I’m wasting my time anyway, because none of us are going to change our views.  Can we all just agree we’re random noters who know nothing about one another’s lives, (with any exceptions of any of you being IRL/online friends,) and put this behind us?

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ryn. 1. i never called u close minded. i respect ur opinion and to an extent agree with it. and 2. in ur entry u changed my words. u defined the word marriage but u only gave 1 definition of the word marriage. there are 2 definitions to the word marriage. 1 definition is that of man and woman the 2nd is that of 2 ppl marrying who are of the same sex.

i do agree with u that the government should not have a say in who should be able to marry who. the only way the government should be allowed to have any business in marriages/unions is through the legal documentation of marriage licenses. those are government property. a few things tend to happen when one partner is of the christian faith. i have done research on this and have found out that

1. the person of the christian faith will convert into something else 2.will accept that homosexuality is condemed in the bible and will be satisfied with just bein together forever without legal union. 3. most gays are not of the christian faith so therefore that is why most gays are offended when they are called immoral bc through their beliefs homosexuality is accepted and look at the christian

faith as something ridiculous and do not like for their personal lives to be associated with that particular faith. but all in all i do agree with you, i do not believe in gay marriage(based on my faith) but i do believe they should have some type of legal union that allows them all the rights of a legal heterosexual marriage.

the ‘christian faith’ isnt the only freaking faith out there. why do you think htat they are the only ones that get to choose who can marry and who cant? what the hell made that faith more important then the rest? ever heard of seperation of church and state? your the close minded one