is god dead? religion, ohnoes
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In response to [Mirari]
(Read that first, it won’t make sense if you don’t).
First I’m going to counter your “God cannot be immortal argument.” Just because something (or someone’s) energy has been depleted does not automatically imply that they either age or are not immortal. Have you ever seen an immortal being? talked with them? studied them? then you cannot possibly know the true nature of an immortal. I like to base my image of an immortal being on the elves in Tolkein’s novels. They are not subject to aging or death of old age (ie: they are immortal) however, they are not invincible. they are still subject to illness and fatigue, and death by sword or sickness. Granted, such an image would preclude the omnipotent part of God’s job description, but I’m only focusing on your argument that God is not immortal for the moment.
Secondly. Just because God could have snapped His fingers and said, “Bam. World. Done.” doesn’t mean that just because he didn’t, he isn’t omnipotent. Furthermore, God transcends time and space as we know it, and to Him, “six days” could mean “six milliseconds” or “six billion years.” Especially if you consider the fact that at the time God was doing all of this there was not yet a sun and an earth (he was still making them) and no real way to measure day or night. Not to mention that there were no humans, until at least the 6th day (or the six billionth year?) Of course that’s assuming that creation actually happened as described in the Old Testament. Most enlightened Christians I know agree that the Bible as we know it is largely metaphorical, and in most contexts, not to be taken literally.
Let me go back to your immortality argument for a minute. One definitition of immortal according to dictionary.com is not mortal; not liable or subject to death; undying, which is the definition you were operating under, and attempting to debunk. But let us look for a minute at another, equally valid, although not as often used, definition: remembered or celebrated through all time or how about a person of enduring fame. As it stands, according to adherents.com, 33% of the world’s population is Christian, 21% are Islamic, and a very small percentage are Jewish. It is a widely accepted fact that all three of these relgions worship the SAME God, although they do it in vastly different ways, and even have different names for Him. But nevertheless, with over half of the world’s population worshipping the same God, it is safe to say that He is easily one of the most famous people* on the planet. If that doesn’t make Him immortal, how about the fact that Judaism is the oldest monotheistic religion on the planet, having survived for almost 3000 years at this point. In that sense, at least relative to our very short lives, God is almost certainly immortal.
And now on to His omnipresence. It is my belief that God is wherever He is worshipped. Wherever He is discussed or debated. Wherever His name is cried out in a moment of anger or ecstasy, He is there. Even if you don’t believe that God is an actual being or entity, you give Him life simply by naming Him. The very fact that you feel the need to have this debate only furthers his immortality and his omnipresence. You’d do better to not give it a second thought at all if you really wished God to perish.
God is not dead yet. God will not die until/unless every Christian, Muslim and Jew on the planet renounces His name and ceases to worship him and talk about him. Even if he never existed to begin with; Even if he did exist at one point but no longer does, he will live on as long as the people of the earth continue to give him life.
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