What he did *e
I should probably make this friends only, but I probably won’t.
My son… went up to a girl that was being mean to him somehow (that is still unclear, but I"m fairly certain that she had a hand in pushing him to his limits, but of course, she was painted as innocent and sweet)… and he wanted to get back at her.
What broke me down is that I don’t know why he would go the place he did.
According to the teacher, who got told this from another child, so I’m sure it’s all kinds of twisted… Jonathon said that he and the girl were having sex and that she has sex in the shower. (*e he did not touch her in any way, he was just talking, teasing, trying to make her look bad, probably like a slut)
I don’t even know where he got that from.
Well, maybe I do. Kids are gross and I know he’s had friends bring porn magazines to school and he’s seen them. I’m sure kids talk all kinds of gross crap about sex. Hell, I remember being in fourth grade and talking about it.
But the fact that he went at a girl like that to "get back at her"… just boggles my mind. And now they are probably going to think he’s abused or something and send another one of those goddamned social workers to come investigate. and god only knows.
One of the BIGGEST things I shelter my kids from is the sex stuff. If there are bikini’s or too much kissing or explicit crap on tv, I turn it off or not allow them to watch it. I can’t really shield them from violence and bad words, but I can at least keep stupid images from clouding their minds for as long as possible (that is, if his friends don’t bring playboy magazines to school to gape at… ugh)…
Obviously, it didn’t matter.
And I was told that this little girls father is "furious" at my son…
Whatever.
My son was EXTREMELY wrong. I will not ignore that. But that little girl did SOMETHING to push my son and I don’t think its fair that she is seen as a flower that "apologized to jonathon, she didn’t know why he thought she didn’t like him"
WHATEVER. That’s bullshit. Girls can be nasty little shits, and that is the truth.
So anyway, I don’t want him in the play. I don’t want parents there thinking "oh my, that’s the little boy that sexually harrassed a little girl" or saying "I don’t want him on the stage with my kid" or whatever the hell. He is already in trouble. He loses his field trip to a place he has always wanted to go and will have some other restrictions as well.
He feels terrible and I don’t want to throw the world at him for making a mistake and speaking out of turn.
I’m more upset that now these meddling idiots are going to get all up in my business AGAIN (they have to talk to their "big boss" and all this madness) and I can be in danger of them coming to some stupid conclusion that my children need to be removed from my home. I always have that fear. I mean, he’s talking about sex, I know how their minds work. If he’s talking like that (so explicit! the counselor said), then they are going to automatically think he is being abused or exposed to things he shouldn’t be.
So whatever.
They can all go rot.
I don’t know…
My head hurts from all of it.
I don’t know where I went wrong with my boy.
I don’t even know what to do now.
My life sorta just sucks.
so that’s it.
i’m not editing, so if there are typos and grammar errors, please don’t point them out. I am not in the mood.
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I’m confused, so he told the girl he was going to have sex with her and that she has sex in the shower? Or he actually did have sex with her?
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oh crum. sorry to hear. 🙁 xx
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Wow-I only hope for his sake this doesn’t follow him. Kids have absolutely no idea the impact of the words they say sometimes and this is the perfect example of that. Parents take things far too seriously and I highly doubt someone is going to come and take him away from you. He seems to have been punished enough-so long as you sit down and have an earnest talk with him that what he said, albiet provoked, is something that he can never ever repeat again and explain why-no matter how akward it is. If he wants to continue to do the play and the school allows it I see no reason not to let him. You don’t want to take everything away but at the same time I can see how you would want to protect him from *those* parents
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He is a fourth grader! All little kids talk like that. Having control over what comes out of ones mouth is not mastered until AT LEAST high school (if that). I remember telling my mom she looked ‘whorey’ once and had NO IDEA what it meant. I think I was around the 5th or 6th grade then. Screw the social workers and their big ass noses. Schools have WAY too much control in family life now. Theydont know you OR your boys. You are a good mom. Dont forget!
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This reminds me of the time when Connor was in preschool and got into trouble for walking into the girl’s bathroom and laughing. The teacher looked at me as if my kid was a pervert, when he had no clue why it was inappropriate for him to be in there, only that it was wrong. He thought he was being goofy.
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ryn: I thought it was just words, but I get confused easy, sorry, just wanted to make sure I read it right. It’s sad that words like that got him in such trouble, but they were WORDS, the father of that girl needs to take a step back and realize that there is a bigger picture here and that his daughter did something to antagonize the situation. They are just kids, shit like this happens, he doesn’t have to be a complete douche bag.
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When I babysat 3 siblings the kindergartener knew all about sex and boobs and I was horrified. I didn’t learn about that until junior high. Kids learn so much so fast right now, it’s not right. And I don’t think they should assume it is coming from the home, kids teach others all kinds of stuff. It’s crazy.
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I’m so sorry you’re going through this. If you need to talk at any time, I’m here. Big hugs and lots of love to you and your boys.
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It’s amazing what kids are introduced to while going to school! A lifeguard told my 9 year old brother all about Rape because he thought it was funny! A highschooler chose to introduce my brother to do that…he’s lucky idk who he is. As far as your son’s situation goes…it sounds to me like the girl pushed his buttons. I don’t think CPS would get involved over something like this though.
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You can tell me to piss off lady if you feel I am out of line. I totally agree with you and your choice of disapline. I’ve not worked with social workers for the last year and *if*, I don’t think it should get that far, IF they to come to investigate, I can help you get them out the door quicker.But this was just a school kid thing.I”m here to help lady,I think you and your little family are great
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I’m sorry you have to go through that crap. =( (big hugs)
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Wow!! I saw yest where you were clearly not wanting to do the mom thing on fb but didn’t know why! I’m sry. That’s …. a lot! 😡 *hugs!*
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*hug*
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Pointing out grammatical errors would be sort of a stupid and trivial thing to do right now, considering, and is the topic of least worries! I am very sorry for what happened! But, if it’s any consolation at all, I don’t think she’s totally innocent in it either! She was the one to first start talking about her having sex in the shower, was she not! (So, I can see your point, about her having
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DONE SOMETHING, to kinda, initiate that, and “invite” that from him! (If you ask me, she seems like a “little tease” to me!) I mean, if he seemed fine before that, then, ya have your “initiation” right there, as to how “he got pushed and started into that!) You have to look at it from both sides, and I’m not sure why her’s was glossed over! Hopefully, it’s not because “she’s a little princess” or
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something, and is “used to acting that way,” so her parents can bail her out of ANOTHER thing, yet again! Who knows what kind of ploys she uses but it wouldn’t surprise me! That’s probably how she manages to get away with a lot of things, to escape the majority of getting into trouble, and dealing with consequences! I know both sides were innappropriate, but, again, I think he would’ve been fine
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if she weren’t to throw fuel into the fire! Like I said, she seems like the who provoked things in this case, and he likely wouldn’t have gotten pushed to that edge if she hadn’t decided to “out whatever the hell she does in the shower!” If anything, she was the first one to speak inappropriately to him of something, and needs to learn something about boundaries, and what’s appropriate and what’s
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not! Hugs.
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Oh, and just decided to throw another one in here, amongst the rest. When I was younger, I’d called my brother-in-law a giglo, and had NO IDEA what it meant, but the way my sister reacted to it, I’d obviously done wrong by calling him that word! I was just simply asking him what he was doing, as in “hiya” when he came in through the front door from somewhere! Was really honestly innocently
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intentioned!
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I think the word there was, “gigalo.”
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i’m sorry to hear about all this, hun… it’s so hard to deal with those kinds of things, especially when – even though what he did or said was wrong – she was still the one to start or instigate the situation but she obviously isn’t going to be punished for anything. it’s unfair. and that’s how the school systems are lately – they punish the kid who acts out to “finish” the argument. they never
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look at what caused the poor kid to act out in that way to begin with. (exactly a reason why my 15 year old cousin was sent away last month to a “juvi”-type place)… 🙁 anyways, hang in there. and i hope things work out and get better. 🙁 much love. <3
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Little girls always find a way to get others in trouble. They definitely need to figure out what caused him to just lash out like that. I totally believe that she started the whole “sex” yelling fiasco.
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Oh wow. Wow wow. Listen, when I was in kidnergarten, some little boy told me that he wanted to “sex me up.” He was simply quoting the song [that was big on the radio at the time]. I think that kids say things that they don’t understand and I really think that’s all there is to it. Yes, it was inappropriate, yes he shouldn’t have done it but he IS a kid. And there is no way that he could’ve compreh
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hended the gravity of his words. I agree with pulling him from the play but other than that…these people need to LAY OFF!
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When I was little… 9 or 10, I babysat my neighbor’s kid with an older friend of mine (11 or 12) … she knew where the kid’s father hid his porn-stash and she ended up showing me a graphic porn. It scarred me for a long time. Kids see things, know things … parents aren’t as strict as they once were. I hope that nothing bad comes of this. You don’t deserve it. You’re a great mother. *hugs*
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I really don’t think you have to worry about CFS coming after you. Although I truly understand why the idea of them scares the shit out of you ’cause they act first and ask questions later. I have had to tell parents over and over again that just because a child says or does something sexual does not mean that the other parent or other parents new boyfriend “taught” the kid that or letthe kid see something s/he shouldn’t. You know how kids can be they touch themselves and play “doctor” with no provocation at all, they just don’t “get” that it’s not appropriate. I don’t think it’s your fault one bit. It’s good that you are all taking this seriously but it will pass. That was kind of rude of the counselor to say “Oh that’s so explicit!” Trust me, I have a friend who is a counselor at an elementary school and they have heard worse things by far. I won’t even tell you what she told me. It’s so hard with children because they don’t mean what they say and they don’t even understand what they say. It will pass, I promise. You’re a great mom.
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It’s always the boys fault.. always. Despite the fact that I have to mean ass little girls and know better.
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There’s no such thing as sexual harassment in fourth grade. Best of luck in this one.
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Poor Jonathon… I mean, he did say something he shouldn’t have, but I have to wonder if he realizes at his age what it even means really beyond what he’s heard/seen from friends. It really sucks that you can shelter your kids from things like that all you want and some kid at school with a porn magazine can blow it all to bits. However, this is a ‘learning experience’ for him… :/
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(hug)
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*hugs*
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Wow! As you said what your son did wasnt right but damn! I hope that lil girl admits to whatever her part in it was because it is unfair that it is all put on your son! All the best xoxox
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anybody who would point out an error in an entry like this…….anyway, wow 🙁 i certainly agree, girls are manipulative little shits, I know, I was pretty manipulative for a while! and i’m sure it mustve been equally appalling(sp? 🙂
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I think until the end of time girls will always be painted as the poor victim, whether they deserve to or not. It’s a stupid double standard. What a crappy end to the school year, I’m sorry you have to deal with this shit.
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(cont.) I remember being that age- stuff like that was said ALL the time. It’s like the age where you first find out about it. Don’t think you’re a bad parent at all! Kids are kids, and despite good parenting, they’ll still go off and do stupid things. That’s the disadvantage of having a mind of your own.
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WOW… If there were ever a teachable moment, this be’s it, mama. Don’t worry about children’s services. Kids run their mouth, and they know this. Jon’s getting into the big-time peer-pressure age. Chances are, his lil’ buddies advised him to shut her down hardcore before the end of the school year, lest he look his a wuss. If this is the case, he needs to learn how to pick his battles.
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Bubba wants me to pass along the message that Jonathan learn to tell people (bullies, manipulative shits) to f#%k off and to always think for himself (not be pressured into stuff). So… Yeah. 🙂
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My eldest used to get into trouble like this all the time. She got in trouble for depantsing someone who depants her first. I can really relate to this so much. But yes, I agree, he was likely pushed. He’s not saying these things for no reason. And he’s not “bad” he’s just a kid.
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It drives me batty when parents think their kids are godly (not you, the father) it makes me want to smack him upside the back of his head. At least one parent (you) handled things correctly. Man there needs to be mandatory parenting classes for all the stupid people out there. *sigh* Sending positive thoughts your way 🙂
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sorry to read that! 🙁
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:o( I know – all it takes is one fucking call. It’s my biggest fear.
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