Jesus was a local deity.
I entered an interesting debate with a person, and I’m not sure if I have written about it here yet…but I was just thinking about it.
Say that Jesus existed, that the supernatural exists, that his life was pretty much as is recorded in the Gospels, that he died and rose again. Say even that we can somehow know that he wasn’t demonic.
What does that get you? Even if I grant a person all of that, all that shows is evidence of a small local deity that existed 2,000 years ago. Even if this deity claimed to be really big and powerful, there’s no reason to believe that he is any more powerful than he demonstrated.
I hope jeasus himself comes down from heaven and rapes your ass until you bleed. Then he makes you drink your own ass blood. Glad I could help. Thank you and goodnight. [wake_up_call]
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I can make an convincing argument that we really do not know what Jesus taught. If the Story of Jesus is true his early followers didn’t do him any favors. And mainstream modern Christianity isn’t either by blindly believing the book the early followers put together.
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Looking at the variety of religious experiences attributed to followers of Jesus, the similarities of those that pass certain defeaters (i.e. the people claiming the experience weren’t drunk, etc.) the ethnic variety of the people who claim the experiences, the huge span of time in which the experiences transpired…Jesus is more than a local deity, just by virtue of the common experiences.
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And of course, in allowing all that, you remove the three or four best arguments against Christianity, and are left with the idea that Jesus was somehow a/the God. If you make that jump, you’ve kicked out the legs the atheist and agnostic stands on. I’m for granting the things you do here, and I understand that you’re doing it for the sake of argument, but it’s not as compelling as other arguments
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“Jesus is more than a local deity, just by virtue of the common experiences. [StealthPudge18]” So is Santa Claus! Yo Bum! Check out my latest…
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Santa Claus doesn’t pass the defeaters, so no, Santa doesn’t fit the same criteria.
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