Blog response

I responded to this blog post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/dear-cenk-uygur-dont-le_b_38063.html

With the following (red is quoted from the article):

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"I’ll repeat what I’ve said for over a year now: "I have no problem with atheism, just intolerance.""

Using your logic and reasoning, I can’t think of a single argument against a form of racism that says something like, "All people of our race are superior beings. The lesser races ought to be allowed to live freely, but let’s be sure to take care of our own."

What could you argue? That these beliefs weren’t scientific?

That these beliefs were intolerant? (They certainly don’t appear to be, as stated.)

Yet, I’m guessing that you think that if a certain group were teaching their kids this kind of thing, you’d be upset by it.

Perhaps this kind of racist idea gives some people comfort, helps build community, and perhaps improves the community that it’s promoted in.

Would you argue against this kind of racism?

And if so, HOW?

Because I can’t think of a way that you could argue against this kind of racism, that couldn’t also apply to supernatural based religions.

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Does anyone think that this is a valid line of reasoning? Or what do you think of my response?

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January 11, 2007

I think the man that says “my race is superior” is on thin ice before he starts, because it’s not something he can prove. When your blogger says he has a problem with intolerance, he’s not claiming any sort of superiority however, and I don’t think the two are comparable. That’s not to say he doesn’t feel superior, he probably does, but his statement doesn’t rely on it.

January 11, 2007

So that might be the problem… I’m not trying to compare the racist with the blogger. I’m trying to compare the racist with a person who believes in a supernatural religion. He is critical of those people who work to end supernatural based religions because the only people who cause problems are “fundamentalists” etc… —

January 11, 2007

my argument is that he also has to be critical of people who work to end racism for the same reasons. My guess is that he is strongly against racism. So the two ways he can save himself are to either come up with some reason that this irrational belief is somehow NOT ok in a different way than a supernatural religion. OR to argue that it’s not ok to try and end this kind of racism.

My response to your note is in my diary. =)

I’ve responded to your note, you know where to find it =)

February 11, 2007

Is not intolerance a problem?

February 23, 2007

If it’s a valid line of reaqsoning and if I have a valid argument (e.g. One only needs find an inferior member of said superior race) you have just grouped yourself in with supernatural base religions. I would concede that supernatural based religions are as racist as atheists. Or at least evangelical atheists such as yourself.

February 23, 2007

I was just following your reasoning. You actually changed “intolerance” to Racism. You followed that line with an example of a group calling themselves superior and ended with you couldn’t think of a single argument that wouldn’t also apply to supernatural based religions. My note was in reference to your entry …

February 23, 2007

In reference to the comment this entry is based around, I agree with the comment in red. I find atheist zealots suffer from the same intolerance as theist zealots, and yes, as per your example their does seem to be a sense of superiority, typically manifested as either a moral or an intellectual superiority. In many respects you share many traits with religious fantatics, especially …

February 23, 2007

In regards to issues of tolerance. I don’t know you personally, you may be a nice guy, but you entries reek of a sort of piety, not an intellectual curiousity so much as a sense of intellectual entitlement and superiority to, primarily, a specific group; christians. I won’t beleagure the point; you either see it or not or at least see how someone just reading your entries could see it that way

March 4, 2007

I think the racist who says your quote is prideful and in religious terms would be considered ‘holier than thou.’ the central difference is that all religious, that I know of, have the goal of converting and freeing/saving people. They all want people to do God’s will. Even Islam in its middle age days would give people the option to convert before they killed them.

March 4, 2007

In light of that comment, I want to say that the above it fact and in no way suggests that Islam is a religion of hate, violence, or aggression… that is for the extremists. I know many peacful and charitable Muslims.

March 7, 2007

Who is he saying is intolerant?

The error you pointed out was what I call “brain fart” lol, thanks for bringing it to my attention. However, when it (the scripture I pegged) was considered an official part of the bible is beside the point of what I was trying to say. Either way, it served it’s purpose. But if you’d prefer I be technical the first five books of the bible were written by Moses; a man

By whom was this man inspired to write the Pentateuch (until his death in Deut. 34), (common sense) God. — Aside from that when are you going to write more? I enjoy reading your entries.

I know very well what he’s referencing, that just might be the reason I chose the scripture to prove my point. Otherwise I could have used the example I gave you in my last note!

March 28, 2007

Yeah, I won’t touch Flight of the Bumblebee on the piano, though I am learning it as a solo on the clarinet. I think you need more information here. You took that one line of his out of context. You should offer at least a little background on what he was talking about, for people like me who are too lazy to go to the link and read the blog ourselves. lol

April 9, 2007

I will do so, and reply to it, as soon as I can.

April 10, 2007

I have read An Atheist’s entries, and will post my rebuttal soon (hopefully). I’m going to keep them on private until I finish them completely. That way I can save them and come back to them, and think them through before making them “live”.