And thus man was born.
I just had an argument with a complete lunatic. A year or so ago I spoke in front of about two hundred and fifty upper teen – early twenty types at a church seminar. One of the questions I received in the question and answer part was “How can you deny that man was put here by God?”
Okay, good question. One people have been asking for ages. My response:
“I’m sorry young man, but when did I say man was not put here by God?”
Now mind you that I never speak about my own beliefs. I only offer alternate ways of approaching an idea or theory.
He answered:
“Well you said that evolution was undeniable.”
Now I will put my conversation with that young man on hold and bring you up to my meeting today. I was standing in line at the book store when I was recognized by the parent of a young man in attendance that evening. This woman was very polite at first.
“Excuse me sir. Are you [DK]?” she asked.
“Why yes ma’am I am,” I shook her hand like a gentleman would.
“You told my son that God did not create man,” her tone had changed.
Now you see folks this is why I always tell people not to go off believing what I say. I have never uttered the words
“God did not create man.” Nor have I ever said “There is no God.”
Let me take you back to the conversation with the young man.
“That is true. The defense of science has won the case. The jury has been dismissed and the judge has gone home to his wife. There is too much evidence that supports evolution that it would be ignorant to argue against it.”
“But the Bible says God created man.”
“Also true. Your point?”
“They can’t both be true.”
“Why not? The entire thing is open to interpretation. Are you saying that God in his infinite wisdom could not create us from a single celled organism?”
“But it says we are created in his own image.”
Let me just say I hate when people that have not read the entire Bible quote it to me.
“Yes and what does God look like?”
“Like us.”
“And where does it say that?”
“Well….”
“Who created God?”
“What?”
“Who created God?”
“He did. I mean he was already here.”
“Okay so God created himself. maybe that was his image. Maybe he created us as single celled organisms so that we too could ‘self evolve’. Maybe he created us to create ourselves. Maybe he gave us not only the free will of choice but the freedom to evolve our species into a loving breed.”
Now how in God’s name is that saying that God did not create man? But the lady today sure thought that I had poisoned her son’s mind and forced him into becoming a biology major and a very nice university instead of going to seminary. This was all I had to say to her.
“Ma’am, I am sorry. Your son was looking for answers and all I was doing was asking questions. Now he is studying to look for answers instead of spending his life asking questions.”
So the lesson for today is, if you see me out and about and you have something to say, say it. But make sure you know exactly why you are saying it.
Thanks for reading.
~DK
That was very good.”But make sure you know exactly why you are saying it.”…Very true.=) Bye
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Excellent argument.
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RYN: thanks! i liked this entry. i agree that evolution seems undeniable and if God can do anything, why couldn’t he have decided to create man so they would evolve?? however the one thing i believe differently from others is that i believe God created Adam and we evolved from him and Eve. *shrugs* but thats why its a free country – so we can all believe what we want to. 🙂
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Oh, I love it. Why are people so….. ignorant? You are completely correct. You never said the God didn’t exist. You simply made that young man question himself and his own beliefs. Nothing wrong with that at all. You are also correct that he will go and seek out the answers for himself instead of being a sheep and believing what he is told to believe.
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P.S. It made me extremely happy to see that you posted a new entry. It really made my day. Got my mind on something else besides the crap that is going on with me right now.
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FINALLY someone who has had the same thought process as I on this subject. Why does it necessarily have to be creationism vs. evolution? One day to “god” is not what we consider one day on earth. Who’s to say we weren’t created to evolve? When anyone questions me on this logic, I simply ask them about conception, pregnancy, gestation. Makes them think for a bit at least.
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RYN: have you read The Good Guy or The Husband yet? i’ve read the first one but i haven’t bought the second yet. but i go thru spurts of reading one auther consistently for a month and then i wont read them again for awhile. (helps with my impatience if nothing new has come out lately!)
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RE: Why do you think that?
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I understand that.
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RE: Thank you for the congrat’s. Glad you like the new look. So do other people. Maybe I’ll keep it around for a while.
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That was excellent. I have to admit, it’s something I haven’t thought about much, but I love the way you put it. You help people find their own answers, make their own minds up…rather than preach your opinion. And thank you for the note. 😀
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*ryn* That’s cool. 🙂 I was suprised when he mentioned how tall he was…seems so much bigger. lol.
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i agree. and only a fool would believe God has the limited perspective of two eyes ears etc. our body is but the temporary vessel holding the spirit as it learns ( or so we hope) i pity the literalists, they know very little to nothing of God…………..
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RE: Here I am again (LOL). She’s ready to tell her doctor to just take her thyroid and biopsy it later. I’m sure she will be okay.
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I am very glad that both these conversations took place. Imagine: intelligence being propagated as one brick at a time, the thick walls of willful ignorance are dismantled! Bravo!
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I love it. We need to get you a bigger soap box. XD Your entry just serves as a reminder that humankind is mostly just pawns on a big ass chessboard. And I usually protest chess (Actually, I suck) but my pet peeve is when people merely regurgitate what they have heard other people say. Blech. Maybe I oughta go get my own soap box. ANYWAY. Peace and health-
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Thanks. I haven’t heard anything yet. I hope it’s nothing serious. I hope it’s nothing at all. Have another new look.
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