Courtship Evolution

Twin’s birthday dinner went very well. It was a very enjoyable night at the Pink Door, a restaurant near Pike Place Market that fills a space that operated as a speakeasy during the Prohibition Era. They make Italian-inspired food and have stage shows. Last night was this band (I presume local) named Blue 4 Trio which placed prohibition-era music. They were really good and Twin bought two CD’s with some of her birthday cash.

Her last comment before falling asleep for the night was, "It reminds me of an era where men actually had to court women instead of just try to get in their pants."

There’s so much to consider with that sort of a statement as why such things have degraded. My response was "there are some people who still require that while others get to be sexual deviants."

On the other hand, lets think about all sorts of things that happened. I immediately thought after I said that that maybe the advent of birth control, most notably the birth-control pill. I am pretty sure that wasn’t in the 20’s… but I think up until the Counter-Culture of the 60’s came along courtship was still demanded and a more drawn-out process than it is now for most.

There were two periods of liberation for Women. There was the suffrage crisis that was alleviated during the Progressive Era… but then the sexual revolution that succeeded in the Counter-Culture period. I would imagine that was born from women who made munitions during WWII and filled some roles that men could no longer fill. I’d imagine some women enjoyed being house-wives, but others resented that and diffused that resentment later no matter what age they were.

I know some argue that males or females have less respect for themselves these days as judged by those who view sex as an act that cheapens one’s existence if done too freely. I think that’s inaccurate. I don’t agree with someone who argues to suppress human emotion or biological drives from hormones.

All I really know, is I enjoyed that band last night and should explore the genre further. However, I know men had it really easy and thankfully for all the history that has transpired to create more competition from all genders and ethnicities for everything in life.

(personal note: I’m typically not very nostalgic. I hold disdain for 1950’s America culture and trinkets because I think it was a farce; we were profiting from the devestation of WWII and there was no global competition. However, 1920’s were different. If anything, it was a celebration for gaining freedom from imperialism. A true "High" in terms of Strauss-Howe Generational Theory.)

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June 14, 2012

There are so many things wrong with your so-called “philosophical” question, I don’t even know where to begin.

June 14, 2012

THis is a really interesting question that I would like to try to answer some day. In my experience & what I have seen, it is the female that has always had to have the self control. It seems in any era, has the woman not said “no” it would be as it is now. Men, to me, have always been the same. Eager, ready & willing. Im generalizing, please forgive. Women’s liberation gave woman the “right”

June 14, 2012

to do the same things men do, get paid the same, blah blah blah, including the right to sexual freedom. Sigh… I dont know… a few words is not enough to explore, and forgive me for the generalization of an unfair assumption Ive made of men, Im speaking from my own personal life experience. I have in my 40 years not ONCE had a man say we needed to wait. Ever. It was always me.

June 14, 2012

It is a huge and unfair burden to place on women, girls who are driven by hormones, just as much as men.

June 14, 2012

Achaia took the words out of my mouth…. Maybe I don’t understand the way you mean ‘deviant’ but it definitely holds a negative connotation that you can’t ignore. While I do think that ‘courtship’ is necessary for ME to have a meaningful relationship, I don’t hold my standards to other people. Not only do I have standards, I also have sex, like sex, have sex with near strangers,have a pretty high ‘number’ – but I don’t think that defines me as a sexual deviant. The term just makes me angry. So judge Judy. Not liking it.

June 15, 2012

I like some of that music now and then, but not a steady diet of it.