Things that Make Me Sad.
If you saw the bunch of notes from Zombywoof on my last entry, you’ll know what this is about. There is a part of me that’s a little bit peeved that it’s come to this, but I guess it’s what I could have (or maybe should have) expected. I started asking some questions, logical ones, I thought, but apparently I was wrong. Things went back and forth, and now it’s assumed that I’ve been trying to insult people. The claims have come back in the form of insults. I’ve told you all before that people who treat Christians like mental midgets make me upset. I might have spoken wrongly–I’m too sad to be upset much.
Here’s how it went down. I was noting with A Thinking Bum, I made a question about irrelevance, based on the ideology I’ve already described in the Hindsight entry. ATB and Zombywoof are convinced that since there is no empirical evidence they will accept, that God doesn’t exist. As I’ve said, it takes a big jump to get there, so I’m not surprised that they can’t make that jump. They base their conclusions only on what they can see. I would be curious to see how they deal with infinity, gravity, etc, but that’s a separate issue. Here’s the heart of it.
Apparently, I’m an idiot because I believe in God. I must be, because believing in something that there isn’t any evidence for is either insanity or conscious surrender of my intellect. I want to address the notes by Zombywoof, just so we can keep up.
1. I do know what I believe about God. I know a lot about it, in fact. That knowledge and the most important part of the definition are not allowed in the argument though, so I’m left with no evidence they will accept. In fact, I would claim that I know God personally. I talk to Him. He talks to me. It’s the most natural, normal thing in the world. But of course, if I say that, I must be crazy, and I can’t be taken seriously. I’m either delusional, or a liar.
2. My reasoning is useless. I have no logic, and am the 21st century equivalent of a medicine man, regardless of what anyone else would say about the existence or non-existence of God. Anyone who claims to know God is insane.
3. Reality is defined by someone other than me. There are people who know more about what my life than me. My experience is useless.
4. Saying I don’t know what I believe isn’t an exaggeration.
5. I don’t have a sack.
6. Humans have created a system of thought that doesn’t involve God, and I’m supposed to discard the thousands of years thought on the subject because in the last 150 years or so, the suggestion that God doesn’t exist is more popular. Science involves no elements of storytelling.
7. All Christians are ogres who indoctrinate children and teach them to be guilty and to shun medicine. No matter how hard Christians try, they will always be this.
8. I’m ok, except for the fact that I’m a delusional maniac hellbent on taking over the world.
9. I’m the equivalent of a middle schooler for invoking a question about self-esteem issues in people who vehemently oppose a doctrine they claim is worthless.
10. Calling someone a coward is apparently not an insult.
And now, you’re up to date.
(On a more serious note, I’m still trying to figure out how this happened. I’m not sure. I won’t take this too seriously. Folks are entitled to their opinions. I take people seriously when they know more about me. For those of you who have been watching this go down, I’m to blame. I’ll take the responsibility. But it won’t continue after this. This ends now, at least from my part. Fire away, snipers.)
To be fair, you should be able to go and check out the opposing views here. There are plenty. Here are some you could start with. Just be careful what you say if you want to note. Consider me a lesson. A Thinking Bum Atheist Under UR Bed An Atheist To be fair, I’ve not read a lot of entries, but I know enough from what I’ve read to say that they’re doing the best they can to deal with a rough issue. If you want to check out Zombywoof, give the name a click.
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength. Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things — and the things that are not — to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. -1 Corinthians 1:18-29