Fair and reasonable afterlife judgement

I dono, I might agree with BrotherJim… if we’re basing our concept of the afterlife on the earthly model, earthly punishment is determined by the one worst thing you’ve ever done. You murder someone one time, and you’re in prison for 20 years, despite all the homeless shelters you served Thanksgiving dinner at before then. It’s not about the ratio of good to bad. Hi. 🙂 Glad to see you updated

Lets say this. If you are warned that duplicating dvd’s carries a penalty of 5 years and you are caught what is the expected and rightful penalty? Likewise, God has placed in his Word some clear consequences of any and all sin which is death, hell, and separation from God. If God were to judge any differet than his Word that would thus make God a liar and if he is a liar he is not righteous.

If he is not righteous, and if he lies he cannot be the embodiment of all truth. Thus he is not God.

I have the option of disagreeing with the punishments that the government sets for murders, thiefs, etc. I DO disagree OFTEN. I also have the option of disagreeing with the punishments g0d has set forth in his w0rd. g0d may be ‘all powerful’ but apparently he doesn’t have the power to make me agree with him — because I don’t.

For the most part, I think that everyone deserves happiness. I think happiness (and heaven, if such a thing existed) is the default, and it takes A LOT of bad behaviour for someone to no longer deserve happiness. Though, if someone is doing a lot of bad things, they probably already aren’t happy.

“Likewise, God has placed in his Word…” Assuming that as clear and true as you make it out to be…just because God says it in a book doesn’t suddenly make it fair. This doesn’t answer the objection at all. It’s like if the US passed a law that mandated life in prison for stealing a candy bar. But hey, if the Courts were to judge any different than the law that would make everyone involvedin the system liars. So it’s a good law, QED.

ryn: Hmmm oook then. Glad to have tickled your funny bone.

Looks at Athiest note..that is exactly that point that the Word of God was making concerning the law. The Law of God no man could follow since the fall of man in the garden. All have sin and fall short of the glory of God and that law teaches us our inability and the need for salvation in Christ Jesus. As for fairness. If He is God, which he is, I don’t think I can tell Him what is fair or not

ATB, one of the problems with the point of your text is that you know I do not believe that we start nuetrally and our life is judge from that point forward but rather man is born with a sin nature inherantly and thus he is sinner by birth, later by life experience and ultimately that sin will be dealt with eternally as God has stated.

Here’s a reference verse(s) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Romans 3:14-19

As for JulieCranford, the Bible does tell us that there will come a Day when we will all come before Him and every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess Jesus as Lord to the Glory of God. For now God has given us a free will to excercise for His Glory or we can use it to glory man and his desires.