monkeybug, you’re next.

That’s it. From now on, hostile stupid people are getting their own entry whenever I feel like it. monkeybug, it’s your turn.

Monkey wrote several notes:

“Ummmmm,
Jews do NOT regard jesus as the messiah, period. He was just some dude.
The messiah has not come. So, you can stop referring to Jews now.
[monkeybug]”

What entry are people reading? Seriously. [A Thinking BUM]

Excuse
me?? I was reading THIS pointless entry. You mentioned Jews to try to
back up your point. I have no comment on the rest of your entry because
jesus really doesn’t interest me in the slightest and I could give a
rats ass about “his 2nd coming.” But you don’t need to use people who
you clearly don’t know very much about, to back up your opinion.
[monkeybug]

My entry included the following statements
“Please, before Jesus came, people were expecting a messiah that was
COMPLETELY different than what Jesus ended up being.”

monkeybug, What part of that statement makes you think that I think that Jews regard jesus as the messiah?

Continuing:
“And original scripture never talked about a messiah coming and dying
only to come back to fulfill the rest of the prophecies that he missed
the first time around. This is why there are still Jews today –
scripture never talked about ANY returns.”

So…I wrote that the
OT never predicted a messiah that comes and dies and comes back, as
being one of the reasons that the Jews have and continue to reject
Jesus as the messiah.

“I pointed out that the Jews thought they
knew what the coming of the messiah would be like because of their
scriptural prophecies, and that Jesus was COMPLETELY different than
what they were expecting BASED ON SCRIPTURAL PROPHECIES. The Old
Testament doesn’t speak of any “returns” of the messiah at all – but
according to Christians, there is going to be a return.”

All
right, so arguing with this Christian, I wrote that given he thinks
that Jesus was the messiah, and knowing that Jesus was entirely
different than what the people who were expecting a messiah were
expecting (the Jews) – what makes him think that the 2nd coming
prophecies will lead current Christians to an accurate expectation for
what they’re looking forward to. A Christian could no more reject a
“2nd coming messiah that says he’ll come back a 3rd time” based on the
fact that “the NT does not predict a 3rd coming” because, by his very
own book, the prophecies for the messiah never talked about a 2nd
coming. Which means that the Jewish critique of “the OT does not
predict a 2nd coming” would hold, and therefore Jesus wasn’t the
messiah.

The OT didn’t speak of any, but they got 1 return.
The NT speaks of 1, what rules out a 2nd return?

So,
my entry has stated that the Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah,
and that Jesus did not and does not fit with the expected messiah of
the Jewish people.

WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU DISAGREE WITH?