Gay marriage
This wasn’t the entry that I was planning to write, but it’s just broken and I think it’s great news. A judge has just ruled that proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in California is unconstitutional and has overturned it. This will, of course, be appealed and the issue will likely end up in the Supreme Court.
My attitude? Like I said before, it’s good news. Now, I know what the objections will be so let me work through them as best I can.
It’s unnatural! Well, let’s start with the point that one does not chose to be gay or straight. I certainly can’t remember a time when i sat down and decided ‘Y’know what? For the rest of my life I’m going to be interested sexually only in females.’ With that said, it’s probably gay marriage they say is unnatural. My response? It used to be unnatural for people of two different races to marry. Times change.
But if you allow the gays to marry then before long people will be wanting to marry their horse/cat/dog/dolphin/toaster/bedroom wall/(insert other insane scaremongering thing here! Oh, please, do make with the fucking off right now. Really? Really? You think THAT’S actually a valid argument?
But it’ll ruin the sanctity of marriage! This, by the way, goes hand in hand with the ‘gays can’t keep their hands to themselves and are insanely promiscuous’ argument. That argument is also used to argue in favour of keeping gays out the military. It’s also not true. Gays ruining the sanctity of marriage? Yeah, cos I’ve never heard of straight people cheating on their spouses, getting divorced or committing bigamy. That never happen. Hell, some of the things that have been done by straight people in marriages it may well be that that needs banning.
But the Bible says Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! You know what else is in the bible? There was Adam, Eve and their two SONS. And from them came everyone else in the world. I’ve got a feeling there may have been a wee bit of incest going on there. Either that or Adam and Eve had more children, in which case, the Bible probably isn’t as accurate as we’re led to believe.
It’ll ruin the country! Over here, we’ve had gay marriage (well, OK, civil partnerships) for quite a while now. It was the banking industry that nearly destroyed the country.
My personal opinion? Ban marriage. I’m serious. I’m against any and all types of discrimination. So, ban marriage. Civil partnerships for all, gay or straight. Then, if it’s really important to you and you can find someone willing to do it, have the union blessed in the church, cathedral, mosque or synagogue of your choice.
That, to me, seems like the most sensible way to do things.
Will
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Not a bad idea.
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Not a bad idea.
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Not a bad idea.
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Not a bad idea.
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Shame the Supreme Court will probably uphold Prop 8.
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Shame the Supreme Court will probably uphold Prop 8.
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Shame the Supreme Court will probably uphold Prop 8.
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Shame the Supreme Court will probably uphold Prop 8.
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RYN: thank you for your support William
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RYN: thank you for your support William
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RYN: thank you for your support William
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RYN: thank you for your support William
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I’m quite sick of the stupid excuses and closemindedness on the subject of gay marriage. It is their RIGHT. “Liberty and justice for all”. That’s a fucking joke. I pray there will come a time though when people..GLBT or straight will ALL be treated the SAME way.
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I’m quite sick of the stupid excuses and closemindedness on the subject of gay marriage. It is their RIGHT. “Liberty and justice for all”. That’s a fucking joke. I pray there will come a time though when people..GLBT or straight will ALL be treated the SAME way.
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I’m quite sick of the stupid excuses and closemindedness on the subject of gay marriage. It is their RIGHT. “Liberty and justice for all”. That’s a fucking joke. I pray there will come a time though when people..GLBT or straight will ALL be treated the SAME way.
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I’m quite sick of the stupid excuses and closemindedness on the subject of gay marriage. It is their RIGHT. “Liberty and justice for all”. That’s a fucking joke. I pray there will come a time though when people..GLBT or straight will ALL be treated the SAME way.
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I agree with you 100% on that one.
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I agree with you 100% on that one.
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I agree with you 100% on that one.
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I agree with you 100% on that one.
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I see a person as a person- reguardless of who they love, and it’s my job, or anyone else to tell someone who they should or shouldn’t love- or be married to. I was also in the military, and I think if you want to serve your country you should reguardless. I had a couple of friends who were either gay, lesbians, or bi, and were open among friends. When bullets fly it doesn’t matter who you
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I see a person as a person- reguardless of who they love, and it’s my job, or anyone else to tell someone who they should or shouldn’t love- or be married to. I was also in the military, and I think if you want to serve your country you should reguardless. I had a couple of friends who were either gay, lesbians, or bi, and were open among friends. When bullets fly it doesn’t matter who you
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I see a person as a person- reguardless of who they love, and it’s my job, or anyone else to tell someone who they should or shouldn’t love- or be married to. I was also in the military, and I think if you want to serve your country you should reguardless. I had a couple of friends who were either gay, lesbians, or bi, and were open among friends. When bullets fly it doesn’t matter who you
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I see a person as a person- reguardless of who they love, and it’s my job, or anyone else to tell someone who they should or shouldn’t love- or be married to. I was also in the military, and I think if you want to serve your country you should reguardless. I had a couple of friends who were either gay, lesbians, or bi, and were open among friends. When bullets fly it doesn’t matter who you
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sleep with in your bed, as long as you got your battle buddy’s back, and you got thiers.
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sleep with in your bed, as long as you got your battle buddy’s back, and you got thiers.
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sleep with in your bed, as long as you got your battle buddy’s back, and you got thiers.
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sleep with in your bed, as long as you got your battle buddy’s back, and you got thiers.
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Best idea ever.
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Best idea ever.
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Best idea ever.
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Best idea ever.
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If you want to get REALLY technical, all marriage is unnatural. Marriage is a social construct. What you said about the “sanctity of marriage” and everything else is spot on. Bravo!
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If you want to get REALLY technical, all marriage is unnatural. Marriage is a social construct. What you said about the “sanctity of marriage” and everything else is spot on. Bravo!
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If you want to get REALLY technical, all marriage is unnatural. Marriage is a social construct. What you said about the “sanctity of marriage” and everything else is spot on. Bravo!
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If you want to get REALLY technical, all marriage is unnatural. Marriage is a social construct. What you said about the “sanctity of marriage” and everything else is spot on. Bravo!
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I saw this in Reader’s Choice and I agree with you. My “partner” (or whatever you want to call him) and I got married two years ago in Canada. We’ve been together for seven years now. My feeling is that if marriage is man/woman only then there should be no special rights for marriage provided by the govt. Also interesting, the ad at the top of this entry was a poll about gay marriage. Wil
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I saw this in Reader’s Choice and I agree with you. My “partner” (or whatever you want to call him) and I got married two years ago in Canada. We’ve been together for seven years now. My feeling is that if marriage is man/woman only then there should be no special rights for marriage provided by the govt. Also interesting, the ad at the top of this entry was a poll about gay marriage. Wil
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I saw this in Reader’s Choice and I agree with you. My “partner” (or whatever you want to call him) and I got married two years ago in Canada. We’ve been together for seven years now. My feeling is that if marriage is man/woman only then there should be no special rights for marriage provided by the govt. Also interesting, the ad at the top of this entry was a poll about gay marriage. Wil
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I saw this in Reader’s Choice and I agree with you. My “partner” (or whatever you want to call him) and I got married two years ago in Canada. We’ve been together for seven years now. My feeling is that if marriage is man/woman only then there should be no special rights for marriage provided by the govt. Also interesting, the ad at the top of this entry was a poll about gay marriage. Wil
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Don’t forget that many of the states that are against gay marriage, allow first cousins to marry.
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Don’t forget that many of the states that are against gay marriage, allow first cousins to marry.
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Don’t forget that many of the states that are against gay marriage, allow first cousins to marry.
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Don’t forget that many of the states that are against gay marriage, allow first cousins to marry.
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you’re saying the Bible isn’t 100% literally accurate. I’ll have to sit down and ponder this concept. tsk – I was planning to go out and smite a few believers in the Theory of Evolution today as well….
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you’re saying the Bible isn’t 100% literally accurate. I’ll have to sit down and ponder this concept. tsk – I was planning to go out and smite a few believers in the Theory of Evolution today as well….
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you’re saying the Bible isn’t 100% literally accurate. I’ll have to sit down and ponder this concept. tsk – I was planning to go out and smite a few believers in the Theory of Evolution today as well….
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you’re saying the Bible isn’t 100% literally accurate. I’ll have to sit down and ponder this concept. tsk – I was planning to go out and smite a few believers in the Theory of Evolution today as well….
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hehe – in support of Mad Twins Films comment: http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ba2b4b34-6c57-49f8-839f-7693993fbb98.jpg I think the whole issue is stupid. People should be allowed to be with whomever they choose. That said, marriage for love is a new concept – it used to just be a legal contract and a transference of property rights. Being allowed to marry for love should be smiled upon – unless we really want to go back to the dark ages.
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hehe – in support of Mad Twins Films comment: http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ba2b4b34-6c57-49f8-839f-7693993fbb98.jpg I think the whole issue is stupid. People should be allowed to be with whomever they choose. That said, marriage for love is a new concept – it used to just be a legal contract and a transference of property rights. Being allowed to marry for love should be smiled upon – unless we really want to go back to the dark ages.
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hehe – in support of Mad Twins Films comment: http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ba2b4b34-6c57-49f8-839f-7693993fbb98.jpg I think the whole issue is stupid. People should be allowed to be with whomever they choose. That said, marriage for love is a new concept – it used to just be a legal contract and a transference of property rights. Being allowed to marry for love should be smiled upon – unless we really want to go back to the dark ages.
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hehe – in support of Mad Twins Films comment: http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ba2b4b34-6c57-49f8-839f-7693993fbb98.jpg I think the whole issue is stupid. People should be allowed to be with whomever they choose. That said, marriage for love is a new concept – it used to just be a legal contract and a transference of property rights. Being allowed to marry for love should be smiled upon – unless we really want to go back to the dark ages.
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I agree with you. I have heard all of these lame excuses once or twice in my life. My husband has cheated on me several times, yet another friend has had a committed gay relationship with no infidelity for as many years. It is not about the sex of the people in the relationship. It is about people in general. We all chose how we are going to act. I also agree that we do not make achoice to be gay or not. We have known about my friends son since he was very young. His mom even said at a young age, “my son is gay”. He is older now and finally has come out.
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I agree with you. I have heard all of these lame excuses once or twice in my life. My husband has cheated on me several times, yet another friend has had a committed gay relationship with no infidelity for as many years. It is not about the sex of the people in the relationship. It is about people in general. We all chose how we are going to act. I also agree that we do not make achoice to be gay or not. We have known about my friends son since he was very young. His mom even said at a young age, “my son is gay”. He is older now and finally has come out.
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I agree with you. I have heard all of these lame excuses once or twice in my life. My husband has cheated on me several times, yet another friend has had a committed gay relationship with no infidelity for as many years. It is not about the sex of the people in the relationship. It is about people in general. We all chose how we are going to act. I also agree that we do not make achoice to be gay or not. We have known about my friends son since he was very young. His mom even said at a young age, “my son is gay”. He is older now and finally has come out.
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I agree with you. I have heard all of these lame excuses once or twice in my life. My husband has cheated on me several times, yet another friend has had a committed gay relationship with no infidelity for as many years. It is not about the sex of the people in the relationship. It is about people in general. We all chose how we are going to act. I also agree that we do not make achoice to be gay or not. We have known about my friends son since he was very young. His mom even said at a young age, “my son is gay”. He is older now and finally has come out.
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Most of the arguments you mention opponents of same-sex marriage using seem to be, basically, buzz-phrases. The main argument seems to be that marriage is a religious institution. This opens up several problems, though. For one, the government isn’t allowed to regulate religion, so government involvement in marriage would likely to unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
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Most of the arguments you mention opponents of same-sex marriage using seem to be, basically, buzz-phrases. The main argument seems to be that marriage is a religious institution. This opens up several problems, though. For one, the government isn’t allowed to regulate religion, so government involvement in marriage would likely to unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
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Most of the arguments you mention opponents of same-sex marriage using seem to be, basically, buzz-phrases. The main argument seems to be that marriage is a religious institution. This opens up several problems, though. For one, the government isn’t allowed to regulate religion, so government involvement in marriage would likely to unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
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Most of the arguments you mention opponents of same-sex marriage using seem to be, basically, buzz-phrases. The main argument seems to be that marriage is a religious institution. This opens up several problems, though. For one, the government isn’t allowed to regulate religion, so government involvement in marriage would likely to unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
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Second, it raises the question of whether churches that want to perform same-sex marriages should be permitted to give full marriage licenses when performing them, and if preventing them from doing so would then be an infringement on their First Amendment rights. Third, there are religions that prohibit marriage outside the faith. Should they be allowed to make that law?
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Second, it raises the question of whether churches that want to perform same-sex marriages should be permitted to give full marriage licenses when performing them, and if preventing them from doing so would then be an infringement on their First Amendment rights. Third, there are religions that prohibit marriage outside the faith. Should they be allowed to make that law?
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Second, it raises the question of whether churches that want to perform same-sex marriages should be permitted to give full marriage licenses when performing them, and if preventing them from doing so would then be an infringement on their First Amendment rights. Third, there are religions that prohibit marriage outside the faith. Should they be allowed to make that law?
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Second, it raises the question of whether churches that want to perform same-sex marriages should be permitted to give full marriage licenses when performing them, and if preventing them from doing so would then be an infringement on their First Amendment rights. Third, there are religions that prohibit marriage outside the faith. Should they be allowed to make that law?
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Cain was a motherf***er!
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Cain was a motherf***er!
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Cain was a motherf***er!
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Cain was a motherf***er!
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wonderful 🙂
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wonderful 🙂
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wonderful 🙂
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wonderful 🙂
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Yeah, I did a little dance when I heard!
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Yeah, I did a little dance when I heard!
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Yeah, I did a little dance when I heard!
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Yeah, I did a little dance when I heard!
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Ryn: Haha, maybe…
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Ryn: Haha, maybe…
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Ryn: Haha, maybe…
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Ryn: Haha, maybe…
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This is the segragational movement of our generation. Woman got to vote, Blacks can ride the bus, and Now the Homosexuals will be allowed to have a normal family. Nothing happens over night, but eventually it will! We all need to unite and support thier human rights!
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This is the segragational movement of our generation. Woman got to vote, Blacks can ride the bus, and Now the Homosexuals will be allowed to have a normal family. Nothing happens over night, but eventually it will! We all need to unite and support thier human rights!
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This is the segragational movement of our generation. Woman got to vote, Blacks can ride the bus, and Now the Homosexuals will be allowed to have a normal family. Nothing happens over night, but eventually it will! We all need to unite and support thier human rights!
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This is the segragational movement of our generation. Woman got to vote, Blacks can ride the bus, and Now the Homosexuals will be allowed to have a normal family. Nothing happens over night, but eventually it will! We all need to unite and support thier human rights!
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An interesting proposition! I think many more things have “ruined” the sanctity of marriage already. The sanctity seems to be as much about the commitment and mindsets of the people involved as it does with any conventional attitudes.
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An interesting proposition! I think many more things have “ruined” the sanctity of marriage already. The sanctity seems to be as much about the commitment and mindsets of the people involved as it does with any conventional attitudes.
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An interesting proposition! I think many more things have “ruined” the sanctity of marriage already. The sanctity seems to be as much about the commitment and mindsets of the people involved as it does with any conventional attitudes.
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An interesting proposition! I think many more things have “ruined” the sanctity of marriage already. The sanctity seems to be as much about the commitment and mindsets of the people involved as it does with any conventional attitudes.
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random noter- Agreed 100%! Also, if we’re going to follow the bible to the letter, then we should also stone non-virgins to death (Deuteronomy 22:20,21) and face execution if we wear clothes made from more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) 🙂
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random noter- Agreed 100%! Also, if we’re going to follow the bible to the letter, then we should also stone non-virgins to death (Deuteronomy 22:20,21) and face execution if we wear clothes made from more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) 🙂
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random noter- Agreed 100%! Also, if we’re going to follow the bible to the letter, then we should also stone non-virgins to death (Deuteronomy 22:20,21) and face execution if we wear clothes made from more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) 🙂
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random noter- Agreed 100%! Also, if we’re going to follow the bible to the letter, then we should also stone non-virgins to death (Deuteronomy 22:20,21) and face execution if we wear clothes made from more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) 🙂
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I hate to sound blonde but I never really thought about the bible aspect. Oh my lord, incest… Shocking… Haha, people need to get over it. Women getting the vote was shocking but we are over that now. Embrace change and developments. I actually think it comes down to the fact that you can’t choose who you fall in love with, so who is to say whether that love is male or femalex x x
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I hate to sound blonde but I never really thought about the bible aspect. Oh my lord, incest… Shocking… Haha, people need to get over it. Women getting the vote was shocking but we are over that now. Embrace change and developments. I actually think it comes down to the fact that you can’t choose who you fall in love with, so who is to say whether that love is male or femalex x x
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I hate to sound blonde but I never really thought about the bible aspect. Oh my lord, incest… Shocking… Haha, people need to get over it. Women getting the vote was shocking but we are over that now. Embrace change and developments. I actually think it comes down to the fact that you can’t choose who you fall in love with, so who is to say whether that love is male or femalex x x
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I hate to sound blonde but I never really thought about the bible aspect. Oh my lord, incest… Shocking… Haha, people need to get over it. Women getting the vote was shocking but we are over that now. Embrace change and developments. I actually think it comes down to the fact that you can’t choose who you fall in love with, so who is to say whether that love is male or femalex x x
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Great entry! I agree with you completely!! 🙂
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Great entry! I agree with you completely!! 🙂
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Great entry! I agree with you completely!! 🙂
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Great entry! I agree with you completely!! 🙂
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This whole world is a retarded shit show. I’m not a fan.
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This whole world is a retarded shit show. I’m not a fan.
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This whole world is a retarded shit show. I’m not a fan.
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This whole world is a retarded shit show. I’m not a fan.
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I just got married, so… I agree with you! Now I am married they can do what they like, I couldn’t care less.
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I just got married, so… I agree with you! Now I am married they can do what they like, I couldn’t care less.
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I just got married, so… I agree with you! Now I am married they can do what they like, I couldn’t care less.
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I just got married, so… I agree with you! Now I am married they can do what they like, I couldn’t care less.
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Psssh….why be sensible? Thatd make sense and stuff. 😛 There was a quote in some tv show once regarding gay marriage, something like “gays have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us” Idk Ive always thought theres supposed to be a separation of church and state, and when you start trying to make things unconstitutional b/c of something the bible says…well..youre effing with that line arent you?
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Psssh….why be sensible? Thatd make sense and stuff. 😛 There was a quote in some tv show once regarding gay marriage, something like “gays have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us” Idk Ive always thought theres supposed to be a separation of church and state, and when you start trying to make things unconstitutional b/c of something the bible says…well..youre effing with that line arent you?
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Psssh….why be sensible? Thatd make sense and stuff. 😛 There was a quote in some tv show once regarding gay marriage, something like “gays have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us” Idk Ive always thought theres supposed to be a separation of church and state, and when you start trying to make things unconstitutional b/c of something the bible says…well..youre effing with that line arent you?
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Psssh….why be sensible? Thatd make sense and stuff. 😛 There was a quote in some tv show once regarding gay marriage, something like “gays have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us” Idk Ive always thought theres supposed to be a separation of church and state, and when you start trying to make things unconstitutional b/c of something the bible says…well..youre effing with that line arent you?
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Banning all marriage is the sensible, libertarian thing to do, but it’s never going to happen. Great entry.
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Banning all marriage is the sensible, libertarian thing to do, but it’s never going to happen. Great entry.
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Banning all marriage is the sensible, libertarian thing to do, but it’s never going to happen. Great entry.
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Banning all marriage is the sensible, libertarian thing to do, but it’s never going to happen. Great entry.
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some good points, although I wanted to mention that the Bible specifically says that Adam and Eve had many other children, both sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4). But it still requires incest to get the whole human race going. So….gross.
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some good points, although I wanted to mention that the Bible specifically says that Adam and Eve had many other children, both sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4). But it still requires incest to get the whole human race going. So….gross.
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some good points, although I wanted to mention that the Bible specifically says that Adam and Eve had many other children, both sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4). But it still requires incest to get the whole human race going. So….gross.
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some good points, although I wanted to mention that the Bible specifically says that Adam and Eve had many other children, both sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4). But it still requires incest to get the whole human race going. So….gross.
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Divorce certainly is way more of a threat to the sanctity of marriage than a law enabling MORE people to get married. Can’t understand the hypocrites who are on their second and third marriages trying to promote their own bigotry under this guise. Why aren’t they campaigning against divorce instead? Oh right – because that would be THEIR rights being infringed upon.
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Divorce certainly is way more of a threat to the sanctity of marriage than a law enabling MORE people to get married. Can’t understand the hypocrites who are on their second and third marriages trying to promote their own bigotry under this guise. Why aren’t they campaigning against divorce instead? Oh right – because that would be THEIR rights being infringed upon.
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Divorce certainly is way more of a threat to the sanctity of marriage than a law enabling MORE people to get married. Can’t understand the hypocrites who are on their second and third marriages trying to promote their own bigotry under this guise. Why aren’t they campaigning against divorce instead? Oh right – because that would be THEIR rights being infringed upon.
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Divorce certainly is way more of a threat to the sanctity of marriage than a law enabling MORE people to get married. Can’t understand the hypocrites who are on their second and third marriages trying to promote their own bigotry under this guise. Why aren’t they campaigning against divorce instead? Oh right – because that would be THEIR rights being infringed upon.
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Agreeeeeeeeed. so this kind of goes along the same lines as the gun control thing that Eddie Izzard talks about. he says “guns don’t kill people, people kill people…but I think the gun helps, doesn’t it? Just standing there going BANG! BOOM! RATATAT! BOOM! That’s not gonna kill too many people is it? You’ve got to be really dodgy on the heart for that one to work.” Then he goes on to say “Guns don’t kill people, it’s just that certain noise they make. It’s just the bullets ripping through people’s bodies, that’s what kills people. Have guns, but don’t allow any ammo, there we’ve got it sorted!” hahaha loooove him. anyway i agree…the “sanctity” of marriage was ruined a long time ago, gay marriage will not ruin it. i fully believe in NOT getting married. but anyway, well said for sure. ~♥~
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Agreeeeeeeeed. so this kind of goes along the same lines as the gun control thing that Eddie Izzard talks about. he says “guns don’t kill people, people kill people…but I think the gun helps, doesn’t it? Just standing there going BANG! BOOM! RATATAT! BOOM! That’s not gonna kill too many people is it? You’ve got to be really dodgy on the heart for that one to work.” Then he goes on to say “Guns don’t kill people, it’s just that certain noise they make. It’s just the bullets ripping through people’s bodies, that’s what kills people. Have guns, but don’t allow any ammo, there we’ve got it sorted!” hahaha loooove him. anyway i agree…the “sanctity” of marriage was ruined a long time ago, gay marriage will not ruin it. i fully believe in NOT getting married. but anyway, well said for sure. ~♥~
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Agreeeeeeeeed. so this kind of goes along the same lines as the gun control thing that Eddie Izzard talks about. he says “guns don’t kill people, people kill people…but I think the gun helps, doesn’t it? Just standing there going BANG! BOOM! RATATAT! BOOM! That’s not gonna kill too many people is it? You’ve got to be really dodgy on the heart for that one to work.” Then he goes on to say “Guns don’t kill people, it’s just that certain noise they make. It’s just the bullets ripping through people’s bodies, that’s what kills people. Have guns, but don’t allow any ammo, there we’ve got it sorted!” hahaha loooove him. anyway i agree…the “sanctity” of marriage was ruined a long time ago, gay marriage will not ruin it. i fully believe in NOT getting married. but anyway, well said for sure. ~♥~
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Agreeeeeeeeed. so this kind of goes along the same lines as the gun control thing that Eddie Izzard talks about. he says “guns don’t kill people, people kill people…but I think the gun helps, doesn’t it? Just standing there going BANG! BOOM! RATATAT! BOOM! That’s not gonna kill too many people is it? You’ve got to be really dodgy on the heart for that one to work.” Then he goes on to say “Guns don’t kill people, it’s just that certain noise they make. It’s just the bullets ripping through people’s bodies, that’s what kills people. Have guns, but don’t allow any ammo, there we’ve got it sorted!” hahaha loooove him. anyway i agree…the “sanctity” of marriage was ruined a long time ago, gay marriage will not ruin it. i fully believe in NOT getting married. but anyway, well said for sure. ~♥~
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