My thoughts on Newton
As more facts come out, it seems that Adam Lanza was about to be involuntarily committed by his mother, she believed him to be a danger. He targeted the school because his mother volunteered there and he thought she loved the kids more than him. To me, this speaks of needing better mental health procedures.
I have a few friends who have troubled kids and have to fight tooth and nail for any help. This seems to be a mental health/health care system issue more than a gun issue. Lanza broke multiple laws, so if there were more laws, why would he obey them? And the argument that the guns shouldn’t be there, people shouldn’t be allowed to buy them…not sure that would work in reality. You are not "allowed" to buy heroin, but people do. Same with many other things. I think saying that gun laws and laws ALONE will stop mentally ill or evil people from doing evil things is ignoring human nature and what’s already going on.
Angry, troubled people will get what they want, be it drugs, guns or anything else. I’m afraid that focusing on gun laws ALONE will just allow things like this to happen again in the future because it ignores the underlying mental health issues. Our health care system is broken in many ways, especially in mental health. I know from experience with friends and family that these issues are often swept under the rug or looked at with rose colored glasses with a naive hope that things will get better on their own.
You hear of women trying to get protection from abusive husbands only to be told that nothing can be done until "something happens." Then something happens: they kill their wives.
You hear of women suffering from post partum depression and fathers desperately trying to get help only to be told that "it’s just a phase" and then something happens: the women hurt or kill their children.
You hear of mothers begging the health care system and courts for help with their troubled kids only to be told that nothing can be done until "something happens." Then "something" happens. Like Newton.
Mental illness is NOT a stigma or something families should have to be ashamed of. A family member would not have to fight in the court system to get a loved one help for cancer or diabetes.
Why so with mental illness?
It’s time for mental health issues and health care issues to be brought into the spotlight.
With that said, does this mean I think any and all guns should be allowed to be bought and sold? Of course not. Just as you can’t go out and buy a military grade vehicle, you shouldn’t be allowed to buy military grade semi automatic long guns. Handguns are another story. Hunting guns as well.
Think about it. We can pass as many laws as we want to but a troubled person WILL find their way around them. If Lanza’s mother didn’t have guns in the home, would he have built a pipe bomb or a truck bomb like McVeigh in OK City?
I also agree that there should be strict background checks for all gun ownership. If people had to go through the background checks and process that I went through to adopt a child in order to buy a gun….that might work!
Should they be licensed? Of course. Should the owner have to demonstrate competence? Yes, just as you do before getting a drivers license.
But, the sad truth is, even with all these safeguards evil people and troubled people will find ways around them.
Yes, let’s talk about gun control.
But let’s also talk about the underlying stigma and ignorance of mental illness.
Once I worked a Christmas season part time in a Sears Store. A young co-worker was paged to return to his home. Later I found out that his 19 year old wife had taken their 6 month old infant and bashed it’s brains out against the wall. She snapped when the baby would not stop crying.
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I agree wholeheartedly about your thoughts on mental illness. Completely
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Once I worked a Christmas season part time in a Sears Store. A young co-worker was paged to return to his home. Later I found out that his 19 year old wife had taken their 6 month old infant and bashed it’s brains out against the wall. She snapped when the baby would not stop crying.
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lets remember not everyone who is mentally ill is wanting to kill people. i have plenty of relatives that have issues (lithium is a good thing) and they never killed anyone or even showed tendancies.
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I agree with all of this. And you know I’ve lived the mental illness thing. It is crazy. Trying to find help, actually, is enough to make a sane person question her sanity! I never thought I’d be happy that someone self-medicated with booze, but if it weren’t for that, we’d still be trying to figure out what to do next (or we’d have had a funeral).
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And yes, not everyone with mental illness becomes violent. But I’m willing to bet nearly 100% of the people like Lanza do have some form of mental illness, and it’s probably untreated. And I’d be curious to know if his mother could have gotten him into a facility faster were there better care in this country. I mean, my sister attempts suicide and is released from the “crisis center” 12 hours later, and we are told there is no where else she can go unless we have $10K??? That’s just absurd. Maybe CT is better, or maybe she had insurance.
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I agree that the issue of mental illness is a HUGE one, but the statistics of gun deaths in the US is astounding to most people who live outside of the US. I can’t believe that because the constitution, which was drawn up 200+ years ago when life was very different to today, states everyone has the right to bear arms, that it’s still relevant in 2012?
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And yes, even if guns were banned, there would still be gun crime, but I bet it would lessen considerably. Our Prime Minister banned guns after Australia had the worst mass shooting nearly 20 years ago (best thing he ever did!) & there was an amnesty where gun owners could hand in their guns. It made a big change to our country, & could to yours as well. The US needs to move into the 21st century.
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We can do both. What I want to know is why Adam Lanza’s mother had so many guns in her home when her kid was so clearly troubled. You don’t keep gas near an open flame, you don’t keep guns near a sociopath.
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