Jonathon update 1, 2,3

 

I just spoke to my poor scared baby on the phone.

He saw the psychiatrist, but when I called an hour ago the dr was not available to talk to me, so I guess he’s busy.

I will call every hour until I get a chance to talk to him.

Jon said he was calm and spoke honestly, and except for a random math question (100-7? huh?), he thought it went ok. Jonathon does not do well at math, especially not mental math like that.

Anyway, Jon is scared to death.

All of those big teens are there for drug addiction and cutting.

He is neither of those things.

He said that all they talk about is drugs and sex and cutting into themselves. One person ranted for a while about cutting and it made Jon sick to his stomach.

They also all tell him they are there for at least 5 days and he will be too. No, they are there that long because their families put them there. He was put there against my will, so there is no way I would leave him there when he doesn’t need that kind of treatment. it is breaking my heart to hear his little voice on the phone just full of fear.

HE DOES NOT BELONG THERE.

I am getting him out. 

10 minutes till I call them again.

I’m sure I’ll get the run around.

but I will get my son home tonight.

i’ve spoken to his therapist and a complaint case manager at Kaiser, they all think he should come home at the end of the initial hold. I put in a request to have him discharged immediately, but that takes THREE DAYS to process. He better be out of there by then.

 

i’m probably gonna have a stroke from the stress of all this

🙁

 

2. They want to extend it to 14 days. because they were unable to provide my son with timely care, they think they have the right to extend it because they "need more time to evaluate him"… are you serious?. ummmmm. no. i am going to fight this tooth and nail. how dare they. my son has been in custody and should be released. they are abusing their power right now and I won’t stand for it. I am still his mother.

 

3. well I’ve been on the phone for about 3 hours. I talked to two lawyers (both wanted 2 grand retainers, I don’t have that to pull out of my ass, sorry), Kaiser four times, the hospital about 3

Basically I got them to back off the 14 day hold. They are now going to just reinstate a NEW 72 hour hold. They are not even recognizing teh fact that he was stuck in a hospital with no option to leave for 2 days. Who cares about THAT aspect of it. If he continues his progress and acting normal and calm he will be able to get out on Wednesday at 3:00. 

god help them if they don’t let my child out.

I am going to visit him every day. I will hopefully get to talk to him a few times on the phone. I will try to keep him calm, I can’t let this break him.

I have to have faith that my son is strong enough to get through this without permanent damage. I hate every moment of this. I can’t lie. I have lost all of my faith in my health insurance and the entire system. They screwed me over and there is nothing I can do about it because I don’t have disposable income to throw at a lawyer who can file the documents to get my son out. 

did I mention that Jons hamster ran away? He’s going to be devastated. I’m not going to tell him until he comes home.

I’m able to bring him clothes and stuff, so I’m going to have that for him at least. If he just hangs in there until Wednesday he can come home. I pray that he has learned because I just don’t think I can do this to him again.

it’ll kill me.

my son is never going to be the same again.

 

 

 

 

 

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I hate that you are getting the run around right now. This is ridiculous.

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May 20, 2013

If he was baker acted (or the equivalent), the minimum stay is 72 hrs 🙁

May 20, 2013
May 20, 2013

Fight it girl. I don’t think it’s right they put him with other kids in there. THat’s so wrong.

This is ridiculous! I am so sorry.

#3: Neither ONE of you will ever be the same again. The silver lining WE found in out-of-our-control kid situations is this: There’s NOTHING like a real-world consequence in which he’s held TOTALLY responsible for his actions to give a kid brand-new appreciation for how good he has it at home and how merciful his parents are. So sorry you’re all going through this. It sounds like pure hell.

May 20, 2013

Hun I feel for you. One of the guys that was in there when I was in there said he was gonna screw me.

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May 20, 2013

It sucks when basically you have no say in what happens to your kid. I know my mom was surprised that kids as young as 7 and as old as 17 were all together in the same room. One of the last nights my brother was there, he told me one of the older boys raped and sodomized one of the younger boys.

jfc what a mess. 🙁 It really pisses me off when I read or hear about hospitals keeping patients against their will. Like it’s their fucking decision in the first place. And holy f-ing shit, why are people leaving you notes about rape?!?! I mean yeah I’m sure it’s a reality in those places, but damn.

May 20, 2013

Sweety..I know it is hard, but it is imperative you don’t let your fears color hisfears. Your sweet baby needs some help. Not this kind, sure..but try to see a positive side. He is going to know that there are consequences, sometimes severe ones, and also kids from homes who have it way bad. He will ideally come out of this with a better perspective. And shame on people telling horror stories.That is NOT what a scared mama needs to hear right now. Loves, babe. Your baby, family will both heal.

May 20, 2013

I just want to stay positive that Jon is getting the help he needs and that he stays safe.

May 20, 2013

how did they get him in the first place?

Omg. I am so sorry for some of the notes that people are leaving you. Wtf? I’m here for you if you need me.

I’m so sorry this is happening. I hope you get your boy back soon!!

May 20, 2013

I am so sad he isn’t home with you yet. But as horrible as it is to say, I do agree that this very real-world consequence is probably going to be for the best for all of you. Jon already showed you he understood that his choice led to this. He knows you are an awesome mom who loves him and would do anything for him. This will not break him.

May 21, 2013

Oh no, I just cringed as I read all this. Anything I say feels inadequate. Really hoping this is over for you soon, and that your son gets the real help he needs. Maybe some day I will write about my childhood.

May 21, 2013

this is all so crazy & overwhelming i dont know how you are doing it, but you do it because you are his mother and you have to. Maybe this will teach Jon a little, maybe just how far down it is to rock bottom and how he doesn’t want to be at all like all those kids he’s with (its just awful he is with older kids!)

May 21, 2013

I am so sorry Mo. I have no idea about CA laws but when my sister was a teenager she tried to kill herself once or twice. They never did this to her. She got the pysch evaluation and wad sent home. This just seems barbaric for Jon. He’s only 11. I can’t imagine how terrified Jillian would be if she had to go through something like this. I hope you get to bring him home and he gets the help he needs because locking him up is not it.

May 21, 2013

I don’t mean to sound cold or uncaring but I have been thru this with my daughter. I understand that you want your son at home but right now it may be better for him to be where he is. I’m not saying he needs to be there, but you’d be surprised at how something like this can make him think about his actions and possibly be the turning point. With that being said, hugs to you from me.

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May 21, 2013

^ Wow… to the person who is trying to ‘shame on me’ for the ‘horror story’. As a parent, I would want to know what my child was up against. The kids are monitored but nothing is 100% and the fact of the matter it IS a real risk having the multiages together. These things happen, and a lot of time those in charge DON’T let parents know. I only shared it to help make you aware of what goes on.

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May 21, 2013

And you know what? To them, your kid ISN’T a person. He’s a number, a meal ticket, and having private insurance is like they’ve hit the lotto. They don’t see Jon, they see money signs. If he had medicaid or no insurance, he’d never made it beyond the ER. If the above thinks saying stuff like that is cruel, all the more power to him/her. It’s the truth. They keep private insur kids 3x-5x longer.

May 21, 2013

Keep fighting and log everything. They can’t do this to an 11 year old.

May 21, 2013

have they medicated him?

May 22, 2013

I can’t believe they would put an 11-year-old somewhere like that. WTH is wrong with people?!